tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post2769086759605434620..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: A heartfelt reply to Matthew Vines 40 questions about gay marriage, and an open letter with a personal pleaElizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-40617776610709904832015-07-06T18:43:49.006-04:002015-07-06T18:43:49.006-04:00Anonymous, that is a good word. Thank you!Anonymous, that is a good word. Thank you!Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-19034611001304132812015-07-06T18:40:33.723-04:002015-07-06T18:40:33.723-04:00Elizabeth, like you, many of us are grieving for t...Elizabeth, like you, many of us are grieving for the lost souls and the situation has now become more dire as the devil is doing his best to hinder the Gospel. Thank God for Pr Don Green and many like him who are preaching the truth and standing strong.<br /><br />What do Matthew Vines, Bishop Gene Robinson, Tony Campolo, and other false teachers tell their congregants who contract HIV and then AIDS? What does that conversation entail? When do they confront the reality that it is mainly through sexual promiscuity, in particular homosexuality, that AIDS is real and is a result of sexual promiscuity? Do they simply blame someone else at that point? Who? Congress? Parents? Church? God? <br /><br />These people claim they are Christian but Luke 16 clearly indicates that even the rich man knew the teachings of God. He knew it was “Father Abraham” and then proceeded to beg someone evangelize to his brothers so they could avoid hell. Jesus didn’t say this was a parable so the rich man is still in hell to this day and will be for all eternity. No way out.<br /><br />Sir Elton John went before Congress again in May demanding help for AIDS victims. <br /><br />http://www.one.org/us/2015/05/07/sir-elton-john-we-can-very-clearly-see-the-end-of-aids-within-my-lifetime/ <br /><br />Pay attention to the words: worst epidemic in history, 9.4 million people (including children) have ACCESS to drugs (not a cure, but drugs for life), CHRONIC illness, babies being born healthy to HIV-POSITIVE MOTHERS, 40,000 people being NEWLY infected each week, and most disturbing of all is Elton’s own words for the future:<br /><br />“If our efforts flag, drug resistance will surface, transmission rates will rise, and this disease, which knows no boundaries, will once again become a ruthless pandemic with disastrous and far-reaching consequences.” “...no longer a horrifying global killer, but a contained and controlled CHRONIC ILLNESS.”<br /><br />All this for a disease that is caused by sexual immorality, in particular homosexuality. Stigma doesn’t cause HIV and AIDS no more than stigma results in cancer or diabetes. <br /><br />Only a seared conscience continues in sin and then worse, embraces it and promotes it. <br /><br />“Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” Romans 1:32<br /><br />Matthew Vines has a seared conscience. Any of us who entertain our favorite sin too long will also gain a seared conscience and rue the consequences. Remember the thief on the cross acknowledged Christ as the Messiah, the One who was allowing his precious blood to atone for us sinners and die our death that was due to all of us. But the thief did NOT come off his cross and he DID die. I fear there will be many who contract HIV/AIDS and will die but who will reach them with the true Gospel before then? Thanks be to God the thief repented and Jesus promised him that “today you will be with me in paradise”. Unlike the rich man in Luke 16 the man in Luke 23:39-43 is in paradise today.<br /><br />The crowd has raised Matthew Vines on their shoulders and he isn’t coming off that perch anytime soon. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-71837102678810171812015-07-06T09:03:22.869-04:002015-07-06T09:03:22.869-04:00The men wearing long hair thing is explicitly talk...The men wearing long hair thing is explicitly talking about being effeminate, which is really just another aspect of the homosexuality debate. So it's fitting that Paul would use the same words in his description.Hakam Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114741274619345717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-46031840578751234742015-07-06T08:52:52.769-04:002015-07-06T08:52:52.769-04:00To his first point, it's irrelevant. We are al...To his first point, it's irrelevant. We are all born sinners. Even if you can demonstrate that someone's born genetically or otherwise predisposed to homosexuality, that doesn't make homosexuality right. That is the fallacious "argument from nature." The is-ought argument fallacy. And even if we're born with a sin nature, we are still guilty of sin we commit. The same would be true of homosexuality, which is a sin, if the argument form substitutes it for sin, as something we're born with: "even if we're born with homosexual urges, we are still guilty of sin if we act to gratify those urges."<br /><br />It's an anti-Biblical argument, the argument from nature, which only makes any sense at all as standing on the shaky foundation of the worldview of naturalism.Hakam Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114741274619345717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-64048945868819093042015-07-05T21:44:44.639-04:002015-07-05T21:44:44.639-04:00Dear all,
Thank you so VERY much for your kind en...Dear all,<br /><br />Thank you so VERY much for your kind encouragement and words. I pray and pray that it helps the young man who is living so deep in sin, and/or that at the least it can help someone else. The greatest blessing is being used by the Spirit and I pray that He uses this for God's glory.<br /><br />I did post a comment with this link on the site that published Matthew Vines' post as a guest post, hoping he would see it as the comments came up. I prayed for Vines as well. I can't think of any more to do. I know the power of the Gospel will break into the hardest heart of stone and reach as low as the deepest sin, but I also tend to agree with the commenter who posted about Pastor Don Green's sermon, who said-<br /><br /> "On another note Matthew Vines has been approached by several theologians for a debate including Dr White but has refused claiming he (Vines) is no gifted theologian yet he advocates like one leading many astray. His soft spoken voice and youthful appearance is deceiving. This person does not want to engage in debate unless you are willing to first capitulate to his side. His heart has sadly been hardened."<br /><br />So while the power of the Gospel is such that it CAN break a hardened heart, I am not under any illusion that it is necessarily God's will to do so in Matthew Vines' case. One can only pray. <br /><br />I'm saddened for the many lost souls who will not attain heaven because of their rejection of the Savior in whatever form. And still, God's glory will show holy through His wrath and punishment of sinners...and such was I.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-69815113649047450262015-07-05T21:37:01.968-04:002015-07-05T21:37:01.968-04:00Thank you for your kindness, Heather! Please send ...Thank you for your kindness, Heather! Please send the FB request again. I couldn't figure out who it was from the timeline or the 'About" and I deleted it. Now that I know it's you, I'm honored!Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-50443773699700475682015-07-05T21:32:29.966-04:002015-07-05T21:32:29.966-04:00Beautifully articulate and heartfelt! Thank you fo...Beautifully articulate and heartfelt! Thank you for another amazing post Elizabeth. You always convey truth so perfectly.<br />Thank you for blessing your readers :)<br />Heather (P.S. I sent a friend request on FB)Heather ~ Central Coast of CAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01243246374029611717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-54249394716410551962015-07-05T21:12:20.099-04:002015-07-05T21:12:20.099-04:00What a answer, you left nothing unsaid. Just amazi...What a answer, you left nothing unsaid. Just amazing. You certainly are a women of God, and he is certainly using you. Thanks for sharing and such a beautiful well put to-gether letter. A Letter of Truth. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-28012965285255455622015-07-05T08:15:23.521-04:002015-07-05T08:15:23.521-04:00Elizabeth, what an inspiring testimony! Letting ...Elizabeth, what an inspiring testimony! Letting go of what we think identifies and defines us and surrendering to Jesus Christ. Beautiful!<br />jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01852806724318410456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-263116218469556672015-07-04T15:02:34.574-04:002015-07-04T15:02:34.574-04:00What a gracious and heartfelt response. I pray tha...What a gracious and heartfelt response. I pray that somehow Matthew reads it and heeds the words. I appreciate your faithfulness. Bless you, PatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-53173159876097401032015-07-04T11:29:41.712-04:002015-07-04T11:29:41.712-04:00I praise God that he led you to be as the woman at...I praise God that he led you to be as the woman at the well! You are at the well and you are the well--you draw up Scripture, guidance in the Word and encouragement in your bucket. Thank you for sharing yourself with us--you give me hope in my walk with the Lord. Surely, Matthew (if he is honest with himself) will see hope for himself through your testimony. Bless you in your work for the Lord.<br />SandyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-48349130981985023032015-07-04T01:26:12.161-04:002015-07-04T01:26:12.161-04:00Way to go, Elizabeth.Way to go, Elizabeth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-67725083879428777442015-07-03T23:16:46.694-04:002015-07-03T23:16:46.694-04:00Pr Don Green 2010 sermon “How Should You Respond t...Pr Don Green 2010 sermon “How Should You Respond to Gay Marriage?" when Calif ruled 4-3 through another example of judicial activism vs democracy is probably the best sermon I have heard on this matter. Firm, balanced, focusing on truth with so much compassion to the homosexuals who have been horribly hurt and are struggling out of this sinful life and desperately seeking help through the church. Very powerful for ALL to listen to as an encouragement to ALL. Do Not Be Surprised has a link to a July conference with Pr Green “The Bible and Homosexuality”. <br /><br />http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=89101531316<br /><br />On another note Matthew Vines has been approached by several theologians for a debate including Dr White but has refused claiming he (Vines) is no gifted theologian yet he advocates like one leading many astray. His soft spoken voice and youthful appearance is deceiving. This person does not want to engage in debate unless you are willing to first capitulate to his side. His heart has sadly been hardened.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-69460345080895854012015-07-03T21:44:46.325-04:002015-07-03T21:44:46.325-04:00That was beautiful, Elizabeth. It was full of grac...That was beautiful, Elizabeth. It was full of grace and truth. -ClaudiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-54690604443104304992015-07-03T20:52:24.774-04:002015-07-03T20:52:24.774-04:00Another good response by James White.
http://www.a...Another good response by James White.<br />http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php/2015/07/03/a-believing-response-to-matthew-vines-40-questions/John Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676818459814771299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-42079532662047417602015-07-03T19:32:51.443-04:002015-07-03T19:32:51.443-04:00Amen.Amen.Perri Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03290064913405224307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-49818412182594873952015-07-03T17:47:30.219-04:002015-07-03T17:47:30.219-04:00Amen, Elizabeth!
jenniferAmen, Elizabeth!<br /><br />jenniferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com