tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post5669538340718210436..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: Billy Graham: a wolf who offers only dreams of meat to those who are starvingElizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-81084629538595217572014-12-31T11:41:32.108-05:002014-12-31T11:41:32.108-05:00No man should be held above reproach, no matter wh...No man should be held above reproach, no matter who he is. If he is teaching and practicing false doctrine, he should be rejected by those seeking God's truth, no matter his reputation. One thing to consider is how Graham is loved by the world - red flag. Jesus was hated by the world and says His followers will be, too. Graham's loved by politicians and non-believers, as well. That's because he's inclusive of other religions. Jesus was exclusive. I'll stick with Jesus and gladly remain in the minority. Sherylnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-31047261392565650932014-11-23T21:17:08.652-05:002014-11-23T21:17:08.652-05:00*rapture forums, not rapture ready forums, sorry.
...*rapture forums, not rapture ready forums, sorry.<br />-jenniferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-14452446083876275292014-11-23T21:00:15.519-05:002014-11-23T21:00:15.519-05:00I noticed that too, on RR. I am not a member there...I noticed that too, on RR. I am not a member there, but it always bugs me that they hardly address graham, moire, or jesus calling in there apostasy thread.<br />-jenniferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-89980761246917534072014-11-23T20:36:23.559-05:002014-11-23T20:36:23.559-05:00Really!? I had no idea that they were going back a...Really!? I had no idea that they were going back and forth about it. I pray the Lord opens their eyes...Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-15299722850361908172014-11-23T20:12:09.497-05:002014-11-23T20:12:09.497-05:00The folks at Rapture Ready must be having fits rea...The folks at Rapture Ready must be having fits reading your latest blog entry, Elizabeth. They insist that Billy Graham is a true born-again Christian and anyone who says otherwise is a hell bound troublemaker. <br /><br />I would have posted the link, but in true RR style they deleted the recent thread/argument on their site where a new member tried to point out that Graham is a false preacher. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-8640932907166976942014-11-23T07:57:50.605-05:002014-11-23T07:57:50.605-05:00Hi Reva, I hope that you get well better soon and ...Hi Reva, I hope that you get well better soon and that you will get some good rest this week-end. we are more in agreement than you think. God bless and keep you in his grace, peace, love and joy. Jean-Louis.Jean-Louishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369843903505765724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-69672647133560806372014-11-22T20:06:07.089-05:002014-11-22T20:06:07.089-05:00Forgive me ~ I'm too sick to "fight"...Forgive me ~ I'm too sick to "fight" right now! Sorry if I used the wrong word, "REAL"... but what Dave Hunt believed & taught is no different than Billy Graham's philosophy -- and you guys seem so quick to pound on Graham, but not Hunt! Why is that?<br /><br />At any rate, Elizabeth CORRECTLY pegged it because she took it straight from the BIBLE:<br /><br />QUOTE: Hell is not only separation from Jesus, but it is fire, sulfur, and physical torment (Luke 16:24; Jude 1:12-13, Revelation 14:11; 2 Thessalonians 1:9) /END QUOTE<br /><br />Is that REAL ENOUGH for you guys?? /clumsy smile.....Revanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-82325721706911995402014-11-22T14:17:36.665-05:002014-11-22T14:17:36.665-05:00Right on.
Julie, CANRight on.<br /><br />Julie, CANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-31109057897647321152014-11-22T14:16:05.911-05:002014-11-22T14:16:05.911-05:00I agree, Glenn. here is Dave's response to tho...I agree, Glenn. here is Dave's response to those charges:<br />http://www.thebereancall.org/content/dave-hunt-addresses-fire-hell-controversy<br /><br />Julie, CANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-36168388212711150162014-11-22T13:25:37.759-05:002014-11-22T13:25:37.759-05:00There is a difference between something being lite...There is a difference between something being literal and something being physical. When we are talking about literal quote we are refering to words or letters that can be used in abstract concepts or to describe a physical reality.<br />The physical is rooted in concrete matter. For instance, wrestling is a physical contact sports between two athlete bodies. <br /><br />Now when we are talking about "the meeting of the minds, we are not suggesting a physical encounter. Proverbs 27:17 teaches that: " Iron sharpens iron,<br />So one man sharpens another". Is Solomon talking about about a physical sword fight?<br /><br />However, we can speak of a literal battle of the minds when we are attending a debate between evolutionists and creationists. <br /><br />That´s all that Dave Hunt was doing, very well, I should add, providing ample scriptures exemples to teach us some truths that are hard to grasp if we fail to discern between literalness, symbolism, imagery, allegory which the Bible writers use throughout the Scriptures.<br />Jean-Louisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-36274453018509112432014-11-22T12:41:52.035-05:002014-11-22T12:41:52.035-05:00He says the "flames of Hell" aren't ...He says the "flames of Hell" aren't physical, not that Hell isn't for real. There is a big difference. Many, many good theologians and commentators have raised that possibility, that the flames are figurative for the punishment.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-16540111443303324052014-11-22T12:22:48.225-05:002014-11-22T12:22:48.225-05:00For Glenn & others who are SHOCKED over hearin...For Glenn & others who are SHOCKED over hearing the news about Dave Hunt ~ I would not say such a thing had I not read it in HIS own newsletter!! Sorry you're just now having to hear about it.<br /><br />QUOTE from Hunt himself: As for why I don't believe the flames of hell are physical, I have given many sound biblical reasons for that conviction. This is a belief that I have not tried to hide but have declared in many writings and talks.<br /><br />http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6691<br />Revanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-328351154531572702014-11-22T12:12:50.939-05:002014-11-22T12:12:50.939-05:00Elizabeth, good research and quotes dating way bac...Elizabeth, good research and quotes dating way back in the fifties. <br />To the people saying that hell fire is just a symbol for suffering I would like to remind them that a symbol is used to illustrate a deeper, greater and more intense and in this case looooooooong lasting reality.<br /><br />The image of suffering being eternally burning is not adequate to describe a reality that is beyond human comprehension. It might have to do with the fact that our understanding is limited by time, space and matter. In any case, when in doubt believe in the unchanging eternal truth of the Word of God. <br /><br />Anyone of us has ever seen a burning bush on a desertic mountain that doesn´t consume itself and heard the voice of The Almighty God coming out of it, declaring His Name to Moses. <br /><br />I am just a simple man and child enough to believe in a God that is a good Father, a gentle Savior and teaches me what I need to know. He has never been wrong, has never lied to me, has never abandonned me, has always satisfied my longing for truth and meaning for my being a pilgrim on this earth, provides everything in my life, comforts me when I am down, is my best friend who corrects and disciplines, forgives me and restores our relationship when I sin and repents. He has always my best interest in mind and the list never ends on the privileges and blessings of being a child of God who fears and loves him and his Word.<br /><br />By contrast why should I follow any man who when given a choice to substantiate a statement with the Word of truth or his own thoughts or beliefs leans on the latter which is no support compared to our Rock that is higher than I and never fails to uphold me. We as ambassadors of Christ have as our primordial duty to faithfully represent our King and our first exercize of this dutyh is to convey exactly the thoughts, words and acts of His Majesty revealed, declared and written down for us in the Holy Scriptures by his messengers and his son Jesus and his Apostles. Jean-Louisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-77213492067036616262014-11-22T10:34:57.814-05:002014-11-22T10:34:57.814-05:00I never saw Dave Hunt deny a literal hell, and I&#...I never saw Dave Hunt deny a literal hell, and I've been reading his stuff for 25 years!Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-70402570626299401962014-11-22T05:24:53.556-05:002014-11-22T05:24:53.556-05:00Sowers of the tares are everywhere these days and ...Sowers of the tares are everywhere these days and some may find it offensive, but so is ending up in hell with no remedy.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05171219693651832856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-79318391216712170412014-11-21T21:24:40.928-05:002014-11-21T21:24:40.928-05:00It really bothers me that "preachers" an...It really bothers me that "preachers" and "evangelists" do not believe in the LITERAL HELL!!!! Dave Hunt didn't either.... God's Word said it & God's Word settles it!<br /><br />When I was growing up, seemed every Billy Graham sermon I ever heard was "on the mark" (but then again, I was a child). Since I don't know the man personally, I can only wonder: where did he get off the narrow path? (was he ever on it) Or did he stray away in trying to PLEASE MEN over God? Revanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-61607698974074557402014-11-21T16:50:26.165-05:002014-11-21T16:50:26.165-05:00Elizabeth, how dare you . . . tell the truth. Grea...Elizabeth, how dare you . . . tell the truth. Great stuff from the straight shootin' Elizabeth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-44468524581937564992014-11-21T11:12:26.489-05:002014-11-21T11:12:26.489-05:00Thanks for the information Elizabeth, this will be...Thanks for the information Elizabeth, this will be a good resource in future for me. I have so many people in my life who are totally uninformed about what Billy Graham really believes. Now I have the information to share with them that will show them the truth.<br />-JenniferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-29272203664961449362014-11-20T21:34:20.684-05:002014-11-20T21:34:20.684-05:00Good article, Miss Elizabeth. You have just poked...Good article, Miss Elizabeth. You have just poked your finger in the eye of a whole bunch of people, but poking needs to be done.<br /><br />Truth is truth, whether it is received readily or not. TY for having the intestinal fortitude to say what needs to be said.Dave Stockhoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02138369823205673454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-33436700061592678122014-11-20T21:25:10.617-05:002014-11-20T21:25:10.617-05:00the demon possessed girl in Acts comes to mind. Gr...the demon possessed girl in Acts comes to mind. Graham has on occasion preached a clear Gospel message, but it is not to be looked at gladly, because it was only done with the intent to increase his power to deceive.<br /><br />Nevertheless, God's word will not return to Him void.Hakam Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114741274619345717noreply@blogger.com