tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post6186162325039042220..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: "My Sister in the faith is reading a heretical book/studying heretical material. How do I tell her?"Elizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-33898536349154985602015-08-14T09:27:44.818-04:002015-08-14T09:27:44.818-04:00How should we respond to a pastor who is reading a...How should we respond to a pastor who is reading a heretical book? I don't want to be disrespectful, and I am pretty non-confrontational, but I am deeply concerned.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05102988383055878012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-48204518510584545432015-08-07T07:36:30.397-04:002015-08-07T07:36:30.397-04:00Thanks for this. It is a topic close to my heart ...Thanks for this. It is a topic close to my heart right now which hasn't gone well. I wondered if you had heard of, or indeed written any articles on, Doug Addison? I came across him a few months ago through a facebook friend, and was appalled to realise he has a "ministry" of tattoo interpretation which has thousands of followers and no one seems to bat an eyelid about. He posts what appear to be daily horoscopes - very vague comments that his followers lap up without hesitation and I have to say it's so far from biblical truth it makes me beyond frustrated. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02362119475074989705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-42882346479554667862015-08-06T00:15:02.407-04:002015-08-06T00:15:02.407-04:00Thank you for this expanded answer to my comment o...Thank you for this expanded answer to my comment on a previous post. It is sad that so many women are being deceived. I remain thankful that God pulled my late husband and I out of our previous church because I know that the women there have been studying some questionable materials. It happens in my current church, too, but since it's a large church, I am not as aware of it. Ginnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04920963862516551109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-70340919113487116772015-08-05T23:25:25.981-04:002015-08-05T23:25:25.981-04:00I've heard the term used in the context of get...I've heard the term used in the context of getting the true gospel to young Mormons before they go on their mission, because after that they are too invested and will usually reject the gospel just because they have spent so much time and effort on their mission. Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11116018441849084588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-36008860475598669722015-08-05T17:46:41.873-04:002015-08-05T17:46:41.873-04:00Rachel 3:30pm took the words right out of my mouth...Rachel 3:30pm took the words right out of my mouth. I addressed a different error, but with same results.<br /><br />-CarolynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-37547324025957611592015-08-05T16:30:43.154-04:002015-08-05T16:30:43.154-04:00Thank you Glenn. I wanted to be sure to give credi...Thank you Glenn. I wanted to be sure to give credit where credit was due. Thanks for letting us know the origin of the term. :)Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-64744645022078413932015-08-05T16:24:14.174-04:002015-08-05T16:24:14.174-04:00Hello,
Thank you for linking to my post above (Re...Hello,<br /><br />Thank you for linking to my post above (Responding With Grace: When Emotionalism Trumps Discernment). If you are interested, I just published Part 2 of that post, and you can find that link here: http://bit.ly/1T4cIGPAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00144910846284431972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-25420409150446348782015-08-05T15:30:01.613-04:002015-08-05T15:30:01.613-04:00You should also be prepared to lose the friendship...You should also be prepared to lose the friendship, unfortunately. I had two friends get caught up in enneagrams, and when I explained how they are not biblical, helpful, edifying, etc., I was told I was a Pharisee, close minded, and judgmental. Those women don't want to be my friend anymore, and are deep into the web of mystical new age "Christianity." I do have a clear conscience, but it was painful :(Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560772227717209242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-58735565034006398502015-08-05T13:51:43.063-04:002015-08-05T13:51:43.063-04:00Melissa,
I read The 7 Habits of Highly Effective P...Melissa,<br />I read The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People a few years ago. Parts of it does sound Christian. But then I discovered the author was Mormon which made me question it.<br />What was more disurbing to me was after I read the book I realize the pastor of the church I used to attend had read it and used parts of it as illustrations in his talks.<br />We must be vigilant. Good call on Pilgrims Progress<br />BobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-57238915236056316152015-08-05T13:19:30.088-04:002015-08-05T13:19:30.088-04:00I was midway through a Beth Moore "James"...I was midway through a Beth Moore "James" study years ago when Moore said something that sent me on a path of questioning her. Back then there wasn't as much to read as there is now, but Elizabeth's materials were hugely helpful. As were the articles about Moore in publications from Personal Freedom Outreach (there were 5).<br /> Later on when my home church announced it was beginning a Beth Moore study, I decided to seek out the woman leader and tell her my concerns. She agreed to read some materials about Moore that I would provide, so I copied the PFO articles and passed them on. Another time, I shared this website with a pastor in another city whose church ran Beth Moore studies, and he was truly surprised to hear that people had concerns about her. I have also given PFO's article on "Jesus Calling" to another sister who was interested in the book. I think reasoned arguments in published materials by good authors can lend great credibility to our words. <br />Chris in NCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-5301904423252383052015-08-05T10:08:55.190-04:002015-08-05T10:08:55.190-04:00Actually, I didn't coin the term "decepti...Actually, I didn't coin the term "deception by investment." I borrowed it from Pastor G. Richard Fisher, who is on the board of Directors of Personal Freedom Outreach apologetics ministry (www.pfo.org). I'm not sure now because it's been so many years, but I believe he was describing Beth Moore followers. They've done five articles in their journals on Moore's books, and that set is one of their best sellers! http://www.pfo.org/Beth_Moore.htmGlenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-43208486337705562852015-08-04T22:31:00.726-04:002015-08-04T22:31:00.726-04:00This was an encouraging post, especially the remin...This was an encouraging post, especially the reminder to pray. It is important to be gentle and loving and patient. My husband reminds me that I was that person, too, just a couple of years ago--walking out of the Family Christian bookstore with the Jesus Calling or whatever. I also need to be sure that my spirit is one of love and caring for the person and not just trying to be right. <br /><br />I do have an example of deception by investment. When my kids were in a private Christian school (and I am tempted to put quotes around that word) the required reading for the summer was The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Teens. I questioned the selection because it had sexual content and my son wasn't even yet a teen but mostly my problem with it was that it was written by a Mormon and we were sending our kids to a Christian school. I could think of 66 books that would have been better than that one right off the bat...but anyway, they kept pushing it for the school and had big kid and little kid versions for all of the kids plus posters...basically they had bought the curriculum so that was the end of that. I made him read Pilgrim's Progress instead and do a book report on that instead, haha. <br /><br />MelissaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-37842262604513220802015-08-04T19:53:27.058-04:002015-08-04T19:53:27.058-04:00Hi Robin,
That is exactly right, we do diminish t...Hi Robin,<br /><br />That is exactly right, we do diminish their beliefs. That's because "We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ," 2 Cor 10:5<br /><br />You could ask her if she believes that a bible teacher should teach from her visions from "Jesus" or from the Bible. Hopefully she will say 'the Bible." And then show her that Moore teaches from her visions (discussed here http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2013/06/examining-beth-moores-statement-bride.html)<br /><br />Or can ask her if she believes that Catholics are just another Christian denomination or are a false religion, and say that Moore believes Catholics are part of the faith, as seen in one of her teachings. Or just run off some of the statements she has made and where Rev Matt Slick has countered them at Carm.org and give it to her with the plea just to pray about it and ask the Lord to show her the truth, whatever it might be...Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-33736377439464852992015-08-04T19:41:42.964-04:002015-08-04T19:41:42.964-04:00A friend from high school invited me to a Beth Moo...<br />A friend from high school invited me to a Beth Moore event, and I later tried to explain why I no longer held Beth in high esteem. She replied with "Well this is just a little sad," and went on, implying I was diminishing her beliefs in some way. I just felt I had to say something.....Robin Baynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02640632701164428942noreply@blogger.com