tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post958547287277982809..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: Discerning Angus Buchan's 'Faith Like Potatoes': it's more like half-baked potatoesElizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-67246981678359919882017-04-19T13:45:00.708-04:002017-04-19T13:45:00.708-04:00Antony, no we are not.Antony, no we are not.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-25570452554116232862017-04-19T10:44:24.827-04:002017-04-19T10:44:24.827-04:00Elizabeth are your guys having holidays that side ...Elizabeth are your guys having holidays that side of the world?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17858241873773154675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-54816060435953681482017-04-13T16:57:11.535-04:002017-04-13T16:57:11.535-04:00One more thing Antony, regarding a comment I did n...One more thing Antony, regarding a comment I did nto publish. You said<br /><br />"I really believe that signs and wonders happen today given directly by God, and God using people to relay his works. To say that it ended with apostles is not true. "<br /><br />I agree miracles still happen by God. No one is saying they are not happening and that all miracles stopped when the last apostle died. Your'e doing a straw man. That's when a person misrepresents a position and argues against the incorrect position. So to be clear, cessationists like myself are not saying all miracles are stopped. If that was so, no one would ever be regenerated, because changing a dead heart to a saved heart is a miracle.<br /><br />What cessationists believe, according to the Bible, is that men do not perform miracles any more like the early apostles did. The reason for miracles was as I said above, to confirm the heavenly authority of the miracle worker so his words may be believed. Now that we have the written word, that confirmation is no longer necessary. If you want to understand this by a pastoral explanation using the scriptures, listen to Tom Pennington preach A Case for Cessationism from the Strange Fire conference, which was a conference TOTALLY designed to DEBUNK charismatics' doctrines like Buchan's. You wanted reasons, here they are, one of many sermons explaining.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0z-J4RnwEElizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-56372478732663859642017-04-13T16:44:55.482-04:002017-04-13T16:44:55.482-04:00Hello Antony,
Yes, there are reasons why people f...Hello Antony,<br /><br />Yes, there are reasons why people feel Angus Buchan is a false preacher. I provided some in this essay.<br /><br />In addition, he relies on miracles instead of faith, which only wicked and adulterous generations do, as said in Mt 16:4.<br /><br />Buchan edited the Bible by deleting verses and publishing another Bible, which violates 2 Peter 1:20 Deuteronomy 4:2, and Rev 22:18-19.<br /><br />Buchan beleives Roman Catholics are just another denomination, not a field of lost people to be evangelized, which violates Gal 1:8.<br /><br />the purpose of signs (miracles) was to confirm the authority of the one doing the sign, not to incite belief. We no longer need the confirmation because Jesus was the sign and then He gave His word. It's all done. Mark 16:20.<br /><br />God still does miracles. They haven't stopped. Miracles have stopped by people doing them.<br /><br />Christianity IS doctrine. Doctrine just means teaching. It is a specific set of teachings delivered by Jesus and confirmed by His resurrection and given in the Word. One either believes and obeys them, or not. Buchan does not. <br /><br />Hope these reasons helped.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-59898619241196306852017-04-13T02:12:26.320-04:002017-04-13T02:12:26.320-04:00Why do people feel that Angus Buchan is a false te...Why do people feel that Angus Buchan is a false teacher.<br />There must be reasons. I agree that there are many false preachers today.<br />The prosperity gospel has been exported from the states to Africa, Asia and all over the world.<br />This is wrong,as this makes your walk with Christ dependant on what you have, which is grazy and not true. Angus Buchan is the real deal.<br />There is nothing that he does or say that is not in line with God's word.<br />To many people are stuck in their thinking of Christianity and it is always associated with doctrine and tradition.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17858241873773154675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-85300519142650216732017-04-12T19:05:27.217-04:002017-04-12T19:05:27.217-04:00Anonymous, how many people did you lead AWAY from ...Anonymous, how many people did you lead AWAY from Christ, by failing to be discerning, and promoting false teachers?Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-68205830844630847232017-04-12T19:04:02.610-04:002017-04-12T19:04:02.610-04:00Elizabeth, how many people did you led to Christ? ...Elizabeth, how many people did you led to Christ? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-43852791757119165922016-08-27T11:05:59.781-04:002016-08-27T11:05:59.781-04:00Hi Kristi,
What authority am I exerting over Angu...Hi Kristi,<br /><br />What authority am I exerting over Angus Buchan? Can you share your perspective regarding the verse? Do I take you to mean women must never speak? Anywhere? In church or out?<br /><br />Another verse in 2 Timothy just beyond the one you quoted says,<br /><br />Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,<br /><br />Can you instruct me as to your concerns over:<br /><br />--<i>how</i> I approached this issue<br />--the <i>actual</i> issue of which I wrote (false teaching about miracles).<br /><br />I'm looking forward to a good conversation! :)<br /><br />Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-88135455585489853702016-08-27T10:54:39.073-04:002016-08-27T10:54:39.073-04:00I Timothy 2:12-13 But I suffer not a woman to tea...I Timothy 2:12-13 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve." Just stop.Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17584983395741403552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-57956064883404774712016-08-05T04:36:48.543-04:002016-08-05T04:36:48.543-04:00gosh christians argue and debate a lot ... any won...gosh christians argue and debate a lot ... any wonder there some much strife contention and division among the majority of them and the traditions they followAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-40830662520601643402014-12-31T07:09:38.712-05:002014-12-31T07:09:38.712-05:00Dear Henry,
God does still do miracles.
He just ...Dear Henry,<br /><br />God does still do miracles.<br /><br />He just no longer does them through an Apostle. *People* no longer have the power to raise the dead, heal, or speak tongues (& interpret them). Those are the miracle gifts given tot eh apostles, and they were temporary.<br /><br />The end time church, which we have been in since Acts 1 when Jesus ascended, will weaken to the point of limping along with barely a breath until He returns. 1 Timothy 4:1, Matthew 24:10, 2 Timothy 3:1-9, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, Luke 18:8<br /><br />The endtime church will demonstrate less power as He has promised us.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-11114351268893839542014-12-30T23:24:59.969-05:002014-12-30T23:24:59.969-05:00Dear Elizabeth
You have not provided any scriptur...Dear Elizabeth<br /><br />You have not provided any scriptural proof that GOD no longer gives miracles..... Even though one of the gifts of the Spirit is Healing.<br /><br />Also whilst I agree that nothing can trump the word of GOD & only the word can have lasting change in lives, it doesn't discredit healing meetings & the 10% as you call it.<br /><br />Even in Jesus's day only 10rate of conversion from his healing meetings...as it was with the 10 lepers & only 1 returned.(10%). <br />The 90% that don't stick around has more to do with the perverse heart of man rather than the preachers.....<br /><br />The endtime church will demonstrate more power as Christ has promised us...Henryhttp://therevealedword.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-70390674987451505572014-11-11T06:34:50.040-05:002014-11-11T06:34:50.040-05:00HI ANonymous,
I do think it's possible to asc...HI ANonymous,<br /><br />I do think it's possible to ascend into heaven and come back. Some people in the bible have done so. Therefore how can I believe it is NOT possible?<br /><br />The question is, is it happening now? Is it normative? Can Christians expect heavenly tourism as a regular occurrence? The answer is NO.<br /><br />Moreover, Paul ascended and when he came back he said it is not lawful for a man to discuss what is happening there.(2 Cor 12:4)<br /><br />so EVEN IF (hypothetically) Jesus IS lifting all these people into heaven and showing them around and giving them additional revelation (which violates Rev 22:18) then it isn't lawful to discuss it on TV talk shows, write books, and negotiate for royalties over what they saw. (violates 2 Cor 2:17)<br /><br />Do donkeys talk regularly? Do people regularly get swallowed by a whale and spit out alive after three days? Do people regularly walk through the Red Sea on dry land? Don't make the mistake of thinking just because it happened once or twice that this is for all people all the time. This takes scripture out of context.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-21506145343504727822014-11-10T16:42:46.923-05:002014-11-10T16:42:46.923-05:00I just wanted to comment on something you wrote &q...I just wanted to comment on something you wrote "did Fergie ascend into heaven to see his son?". You seem to think that this is not possible. We do know however that Paul was taken up to the third heaven and came back, Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven. And John in Revelation was told to "come up here". So it is definitely possible to go to heaven and come back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-53939364683683075412014-11-08T17:18:31.827-05:002014-11-08T17:18:31.827-05:00James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith; ...James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.<br /><br />James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-1251541393101423382014-06-03T00:36:21.273-04:002014-06-03T00:36:21.273-04:00to all who wonder why the 'Church' -body o...to all who wonder why the 'Church' -body of believers do not 'remain' faithful is perhaps found in Eph 4 :11-16 . we dont grow up because the body is in wrong structures/models. We place the label of Pastor on people, when it's NOT a title -its a function/calling/ministry. I believe those who do this will be judged in the role as pastors/shepherds, ofter who done shepherd, as well as what their calling WAS In God & did they fulfill that call ? (what He 'had on their lives' , ie an Evangelist ) = judged on two counts!!! there needs to be repentance for how we have not searched the scriptures in this & seen the truth. To have a group of persons as Elders/Deacons function under the direction of the Holy Spirit & flow in Unity, honoring each others ministry is truly a miracle-being in one accord, yes with a lead elder, not a static role, as seen with the early guys. <br />So lets get back to the basics of the early church & give HIS church back to Him as He intended it to be (ad) ministered. Yours In Christ, Tricia Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-83295188450660763252014-06-02T06:58:36.323-04:002014-06-02T06:58:36.323-04:00I have heard about the gifts of the Holy Spirit. A...I have heard about the gifts of the Holy Spirit. And you should know very well that not all people who claim to have a gift of the Spirit have such a gift. Not all people who proclaim the Gospel do so under the the operation of the Spirit. ANd some whose hearts have been converted still promote a different Gospel or add things to the message. Here is a definition of evangelism by Tony Miano (pastor and street preacher, global evangelist)<br /><br />Evangelism is the announcement, proclamation, and/or preaching of the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4), the good news of and about Jesus Christ.<br /><br />As for the following statement you made:God give to everyone hi called to be an evangelist the power to heal, some people need to see to believe"<br /><br />Nowhere in the bible did God give healing power to all evangelists. That is a false statement easily proved by even a superficial reading of the bible. John the Baptist never did one miracle, not one healing. And he is seen as the greatest man who ever lived, the forerunner of the Christ.<br /><br />And definitely your second statement that some people need to see to believe is the exact opposite of the truth, and is exactly why people like Angus Buchan muddy the evangelistic waters (to put it kindly). <br /><br />Thousands thronged Jesus when He did His miracles, thousands left Him when He said the hard sayings. In Matthew 16:4 Jesus said, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” So he left them and departed."<br /><br />And even when THAT sign was given, His glorious resurrection, many refused to believe. The age of the Incarnation brought miracles by Jesus and then initially by His apostles to validate the inspired word. Even by the middle of the Apostolic age the miracles were dying out, Paul didn't heal Timothy, but advised him to drink a bit of wine for his frequent ailments. (1 Tim 5:23). <br /><br />Once the word was completed, so were the miracles. Only three times in history have there been times of great miracles, Moses, Elijah, and Jesus. Miracles are not common and are not the go-to method the Spirit uses to proclaim Jesus. Angus Buchan, and you, should know that.<br /><br />Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-42824192780399814452014-06-01T23:05:23.500-04:002014-06-01T23:05:23.500-04:00Hi Elizabeth. ..
I don't really understand wh...Hi Elizabeth. ..<br /><br />I don't really understand why you are trying to disbelieve Angus, how can you say that he isn't a evangelist? Do you ever heard about the gifts of holy Spirit? When God give us a gift he give us the ability to do things to his kingdom , and clearly Angus is a evangelist if thats why he can bring people to God just his words and testimony, and of course with the healing miracles..God give to everyone hi called to be an evangelist the power to heal, some people need to see to believe, some people have a tiny faith and a lot of problems in live and a miracle its all that they need to start to believe. Even Jesus did that...sometimes he just heal. You should read more the bible to understand that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-38533882969414060702014-04-26T20:33:01.596-04:002014-04-26T20:33:01.596-04:00Hi Elizabeth,
Firstly, I would like to thank you ...Hi Elizabeth,<br /><br />Firstly, I would like to thank you for time and effort taken to post this blog. It had a huge impact on me after not just reading this article or blog, but also of others, like that from Dr John MacArthur and the team from Worldviewweekend. And many others<br /><br />There is really a trend I can see going on with most of the criticism being posted by people. Its like you have mentioned, you support the scriptures from the Word of God, the Truth, and in return, you receive comments with the absence of scriptures, which goes to show.... <br /><br />I can only say that the criticism is based on the desires of the flesh, and nothing else. Its exactly what Paul wrote to Timothy in 2 Timothy 4:3. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,<br /><br />I hope and pray your message and ministry falls and clings to the hearts of those who follow sound doctrine.<br /><br />Warmest Regards,<br />ClintonAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060433318218755321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-83547552967294209562014-04-08T23:54:41.244-04:002014-04-08T23:54:41.244-04:00The verses you give do not disqualify healing gift...The verses you give do not disqualify healing gifts being present today. I believe that Spiritual gifts still exist and that they will pass in the end. What I agree with is the word of God being preached and that all miracles be measured against the standard of the bible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-65734896172911885112014-02-28T03:32:50.814-05:002014-02-28T03:32:50.814-05:00Thank you Elizabeth, your comments have encouraged...Thank you Elizabeth, your comments have encouraged me. I watched that movie on the recommendation of many Christians. The faith issue bothered me greatly, I have lost sleep! It reminded me of my days in the church of the latter day saints. I was repeatedly told to pray for what I want, and if I have enough faith it will be so. My young heart thought that was terrible theology. But now I have come to realise that faith in god means to have faith in God and in his will for your life and the greater good, which is the ultimate joy rather than what God can do to improve our lives on Earth, which we are meant to surrender to God anyhow. I read your comments, it's was nice to have some things confirmed for me in scripture. thanks again. Jess. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-49179570077124170152014-02-25T19:17:51.774-05:002014-02-25T19:17:51.774-05:00I would edit your comment only slightly. "The...I would edit your comment only slightly. "The host will only post an opposing view if he or she has a good BIBLICAL argument lined up against it." And 'host' is correct. It is my blog. I reserve the right to approve or disapprove all comments. That's not dishonest. It is a fact.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-15068665677725620022014-02-25T19:14:18.826-05:002014-02-25T19:14:18.826-05:00Hello David Paul, you said "You cling to the ...Hello David Paul, you said "You cling to the knowledge of God, but deny His power." It is a sad and erroneous thing to ascribe the ONLY power God has is that which we can see. God is not only the miracles. He is not only the healing. His power stands alone, whether we see his miracles or not. His power is in the unseen but regenerated heart, i.e. salvation. THAT is a miracle. It is in the indwelling Holy Spirit, leading us into illuminated truth. His power is the sustained creation, NOT collapsing every day.<br /><br />"the works I do you will also do"? OK, Sir, walk on water. Sweat blood. Die on the cross. It is heresy to say that we will so the same works as Jesus. What John 14:12 is actually saying, is the "you" he is speaking of are the Apostles. Not every Christian in perpetuity. Second, as Gill's Exposition says, "not greater in nature and kind, but more in number; for the apostles, in a long series of time, and course of years, went about preaching the Gospel, not in Judea only, but in all the world... the conversion of a sinner is a greater work than any of the miracles of raising the dead, &c. for this includes in it all miracles"<br /><br />Angus is leading many to "A" Christ, but which Christ? the Christ is miracles and false expectations, where even once the miracles stopped , they left the REAL Jesus? Miracles don't save. Watching one is only entertainment. The flash soon fades and all you're left with is false converts. An evil and adulterous generation asks for a sign!<br /><br />Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-13977527285456244322014-02-25T07:26:05.203-05:002014-02-25T07:26:05.203-05:00This is not an honest Blog if you will only post t...This is not an honest Blog if you will only post the things you agree with or are not threatening to you. Sadly this has become and epidemic. Supposedly unbiased conversations, where the host will only post an opposing view if he or she has a good argument lined up against it. David Paul Christensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10300954873094263933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-62878331654522347732014-02-25T07:15:55.827-05:002014-02-25T07:15:55.827-05:00This is sad, You cling to the knowledge of God, bu...This is sad, You cling to the knowledge of God, but deny His power. Why does it have to be one or the other! Why not heavily promote ingesting God's living Word and pressing in for Him to do miracles? Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever and He lives in us now! He commanded us to heal the sick and raise the dead and cast out demons! To me it is heresy to ignore the Word and only focus on miraculous manifestations. But, it is just as much a heresy to claim that God is powerless in our lives and to call Jesus a liar when He said "the works I do you will also do". Don't listen to the voice of lies in your head! The devil knows he cannot steal your salvation, so he is going after the next best option, stealing your power in the victory of what Jesus accomplished on the cross! We are sinners who have been forgiven, are going through a life long process of sanctification, and YES we get to be a part of Jesus doing miracles, like He always has! If you are tuned in to the devil's voice I feel very sad for you! Jesus said my sheep hear my voice! They KNOW ME! On judgment day, some so called Christians will hear Him say I NEVER KNEW YOU! Do you know Him? Or do you only know how to intellectualize Him and debate over Him? Why are you so concerned with attacking your own brethren? Jesus said to go make disciples! But this is what you spend your life on? Attacking Angus, a guy who is leading many to Christ! Stop building a theology around your own experience or lack of experience! Go read YOUR BIBLE! It is a book full of Miracles! David Paul Christensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10300954873094263933noreply@blogger.com