tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post166349697831149622..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: A two part look at the southern US border situation and influx of people: part 2Elizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-61489159127964936232014-08-04T07:35:54.589-04:002014-08-04T07:35:54.589-04:00I think I would counsel one in your described situ...I think I would counsel one in your described situation as follows:<br /><br />IF you have been moving in God’ Word the Bible daily and therefore having a demonstration of the fruit of the Spirit in and through your redeemed life, fervent focused prayer - then we can only trust that the Holy Spirit will lead us in His divine ordered steps. As I have given thought many times on how the Holy Spirit leads in any given situation, I have concluded that unlike the sensationalist that seek some form of mystical and dramatic manifestation, we just get moving the best we know how and trusting that the Lord God is guiding us. I have found that OFTEN times we are NOT even fully aware of how the Lord has lead us until later and we are able to look back and see!<br /><br />Moreover, you MAY be called upon by the Lord God to take a stand on any given situation, maybe to the point of even standing ALONE in your humanity. You may have to not only pay a price for this, but maybe a huge price may be required. I also think it wise to count the costs, to consider the counsel of a doctrinally sound fellow saint, and be careful not to jump into something to quickly as a general policy. Lastly, I have found, that if something is popular then it very well may be a lie. Of course there are likely other important factors but these are a few of the things that immediately come to mind after reading your reply.<br /><br />Thought:<br />“A little leaven leaveneth the whole loaf” or a small drop of poison can kill you, an Ebola trace too - can kill you. Watch out for any mixture of truth with error is my point.<br /><br />PS, We can not rescue humanity or render aid in EVERY sad circumstance in this fallen world :>( , but the Lord God will rescue all that the Father has given Him one day - and SOON! <br /><br />Come Lord Jesus :>),<br />Rick<br />Metro AtlantaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-5370498705593967212014-08-03T21:20:39.174-04:002014-08-03T21:20:39.174-04:00thanks so much Rick. I go back and forth on it. I ...thanks so much Rick. I go back and forth on it. I agree with Mr Friel, but on the other hand how are we to know *when* to disobey the law in the cause of compassion? Though in this particular case with the immigrant children, it seems easier. it's just a tough situation all around.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-36097598534112648112014-08-03T11:08:15.371-04:002014-08-03T11:08:15.371-04:00Let me throw something out there that I observed t...Let me throw something out there that I observed this morning in the same book and chapter of Leviticus.<br /><br />V’s- 9,10 of chapter 19; When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. 10 And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner: I am the Lord your God.<br /><br />NOTICE if you will, that the Lord God did NOT tell His people the Jews to give them ALL their crops! He essentially said just follow my instructions on this and the poor among you will have some level of provisions!<br /><br />Consider my analogy that was recently developed a few days ago; “I hear that YOU have a really nice setting at your homestead. Therefore without any input from you I am going to take it upon myself to come over with some folks that I will gather up and camp out in YOUR yard! Word will eventually get out on this and even more people will come to camp out. In spite of laws against this, at some point you will be overwhelmed to the point that your Biblical responsibility to provide for yourself and family will sustain a serious crises to the point of being just like the campers. Moreover, if one of the intruders climbed in my window at 2 in the morning, then I would have a serious threat to deal with. I would probably be at some level of fear or at least on the high alert mode. We would then need to deal with the immediate threat before even considering love, compassion, and mercy”. <br /><br />Another thought that I have to continuously wrestle through here in metro Atlanta is the scores of homeless folks. It seems like everywhere you turn they are there asking for help or funds! I can NOT help them all, though I do believe that I must help as many as I can within reason. If it were exclusively about mercy and compassion or equality then go sell all you have and join them.<br /><br />Not to boast here my friend, but as Paul mentioned his credentials with the hope of making an impact for TRUTH, I too may humbly share that DAILY evangelism IS a hallmark of my redeemed life! I sincerely care enough to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with ALL people, including the love speech that if they die in their sins they SHALL end up in hell!<br /><br />The guy that would climb in my window at 2 in the morning would likewise hear the gospel if the Lord gave me the opportunity in some fashion unknown to me, but the very first thing unless the Lord God overruled (which I would hope that He would), the guy may be taking a trip to the morgue (NOT implying even the slightest hint on immigration, NOR any other issue!).<br /><br />Mercy, compassion, meeting people where they are at with hospitality and the gospel! ABSOLUTELY! Just that it is not, anything goes! In closing, I did listen to the link by “Todd Friel of Wreched Radio”. I agree with him, and we need too, to consider these truths in our dealings with others on a case by case basis. <br /><br />Love in Jesus Christ,<br /><br />Brother Rick<br />Metro AtlantaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-15586706332470318742014-07-31T18:13:30.400-04:002014-07-31T18:13:30.400-04:00I love your answer and I agree 100%!I love your answer and I agree 100%!Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-44180812608044215332014-07-31T16:29:47.147-04:002014-07-31T16:29:47.147-04:00I think there's a world of difference between ...I think there's a world of difference between people who emigrate here with the intent of obeying our laws and becoming productive citizens, and those who come here illegally with ill intent (including milking our welfare system, and yes people do actually do that, and it is a huge burden on the taxpayers). <br /><br />The first should be shown compassion and assistance, many are fleeing horrific circumstances, and want a safe place to live and work. That has historically been what made this country great - we have taken in the huddled masses yearning to be free. These people want to do it correctly, and should be given the opportunity. <br /><br />The second group (illegal/ill intent) should be addressed by our law enforcement agencies.<br /><br />The problem I see is - and correct me if I am wrong - that right now both groups are being lumped together into one category, and treated as "group one". I do not believe blanket amnesty is the answer, because it opens the door for those with ill intent to have free reign. I've read accounts of all sorts of havoc going on in the cities and towns that are on our southern border. All countries in the world have the right to have secure borders, requirements for citizenship, and consequences for breaking these laws. <br /><br />There has always been a legal means to live here, work here, and become a US citizen. That's never been the question.<br /><br />I do have personal friends who are not US citizens, but rather are foreigners living here, but they have made sure to do everything to be here legally.<br /><br />So I see what is going on with our southern border to be a serious breach, because blanket amnesty has been given. It will affect us all, sooner or later.<br /><br />-Carolyn (sorry for posting the gotquestions link without my name, it's been one of those days...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-31481853671608112732014-07-31T12:51:47.640-04:002014-07-31T12:51:47.640-04:00That's a good essay. It confirms what MacArthu...That's a good essay. It confirms what MacArthur said in the excerpt I posted above.<br /><br />GotQuestionswrote: "Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do (Galatians 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2-15). However, the biblical fact that we are to care for the unfortunate does not mean we should violate the law in doing so."<br /><br />The following are my opinions:<br /><br />1. The issue about what the law IS remains in question, since it has been changed and things are in flux. Amnesty in particular complicates matters. It is a legal problem of mammoth proportions. I didn't write about that in the essay because it got complicated real fast, bub did appreciate the stance MacArthur explained. We are to obey civil authorities.<br /><br />2. Compassion is called for during the time the widows, orphans, etc are detained in US facilities. We are to be hospitable. These are human beings after all.<br /><br />3. Though there are many illegal immigrants coming this past month, I do not think it is a deliberate destabilizing action on the part of our top officials, as some conspiracy theorists have proposed.<br /><br />4. I do not think that the US is destabilized by this influx at present, though the services down south are certainly stretched.<br /><br />Thank you for the link. I would have appreciated some sort of thought process, comment, or additional opinion from you, either about what is written here, or what is written in the link. Conversation is what it's all aboutElizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-13091374884034258312014-07-31T12:38:11.433-04:002014-07-31T12:38:11.433-04:00http://www.gotquestions.org/illegal-immigration.ht...http://www.gotquestions.org/illegal-immigration.html<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-63166694793196714142014-07-31T05:30:47.148-04:002014-07-31T05:30:47.148-04:00First of all I would say that NAFTA was implemente...First of all I would say that NAFTA was implemented and allowed to cause a positive growth in these neighboring counties. In actuality what it did was allow large US corporations to circumvent US regulation and to exploit the poverty south of the border. <br />My point? If we are to be a good neighbor what is being done to help stem those conditions causing the exodus? <br />This is a problem that exist in some part because of sin in America. The church has allowed the abortion industry to not only exist but to thrive. The same people who believe that we need to care for these children and call it a humanitarian effort, are the same ones who blatantly dispose of millions each year through abortion. <br />Government funded murder of children who by far are put away because of inconvenience.<br />Here is the other issue, I the Almighty deems it proper for a person or a group to be chastened because of sin, who am I, without His consent seek to get in the way? I for one have had to reassess my intervention, not because I lack compassion but when looking at how that help has been received, what is the resulting condition. <br />I have, but not exhaustively, put out the word to Maine lawmakers and some in Texas to repent of abortion and close those clinics shift those government funds to the "humanitarian" effort.<br />Crickets, not a word sound or peep from them. The world is lost and dying without Christ their is no remedy. <br />The 501 (c) 3 causes blindness and the kind of dementia that we see around us in the "church".<br />Oh, by the way the catholic church was behind bring those people to Lewiston. It has been part of the hidden agenda within it as a Babylonian Mystery religion to bring everyone under the control of the anti-christ. It is called conditioning.<br />Most of those who immigrated that I have had contact with are thankful honorable people. More so I would say than the government that allowed it. It has brought with it problems there is no doubt. <br />Look around, they who you see are your neighbors. Where is the peaceful shore?<br />Revelation 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.<br /><br />22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.<br /><br />23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.<br /><br />24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.<br /><br />25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.<br /><br />26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.<br /><br />27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.<br /><br />22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.<br /><br />2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.<br /><br />3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:<br /><br />4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.<br /><br />5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.<br /><br />6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. 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