tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post2267261406231440159..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: Andy Stanley, Billy Graham, and the Bible, on the virgin birthElizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-56443624259242573042017-02-07T12:38:43.028-05:002017-02-07T12:38:43.028-05:00i have such a big problem here ..
One believes in ...i have such a big problem here ..<br />One believes in God & then one picks & chooses the powers of God .. "yes" .. "no" .. "no" .. "yes" .. like we know something about anything.<br />Look around at the creation .. who caused all this magic to happen ?<br />Albert Einstein & his mottle crew of wannabe scientists ?<br /><br />Who is anyone to question the hand of God or His infinite wisdom?<br />Please !<br />It all began with one cell dividing, so maybe God went back to the beginning & caused one cell to divide .. again ?<br />We either believe that God did all this or we don't, but no one has any better ideas other than to say .."I think that a virgin birth is possible." or "Personally, I do not believe it"<br />Either was we don't know zit so we are being pretentious. <br />About God ?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-33100338382392006672017-02-03T05:46:33.104-05:002017-02-03T05:46:33.104-05:00Thanks Regina. I agree. The verse in Luke 6:26 sho...Thanks Regina. I agree. The verse in Luke 6:26 should be enough of a clue, (Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets,) but people just do not want to hear it. Graham's statement to Schuller in an interview in the late 1990s was a clarion signal, where Graham said people who don't know Christ in pagan tribes but are sincerely looking for something higher than themselves, will be in heaven. (Wider Mercy doctrine). Oy.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-56375795451882428072017-02-03T02:25:13.289-05:002017-02-03T02:25:13.289-05:00Thank you Elizabeth. I have been very confused ove...Thank you Elizabeth. I have been very confused over the SBC worship of Graham for quite a few years now after I began looking into these issues. It is shocking how so many have put him on a pedastal regardless of his associations, beliefs, and quotes over most of his ministry. I remember him taking Mormons off the list of cults after Mitt Romney went to see him when running for president. I've also read where Joel Osteen has visited him in recent years and Graham has always been encouraging to him and tells him there is nothing he would change about his ministry etc. People like to say these things started in his "old age" but they do not know (or care to know) the facts. He is loved by the world - a red flag we should pay attention to. Thank you for speaking the truth about this; it surely isn't the norm or acceptable to point these things out in "the church" today.Reginanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-41972978285652563912017-02-02T00:04:32.039-05:002017-02-02T00:04:32.039-05:00Just finished Child in the Manger by Sinclair Ferg...Just finished Child in the Manger by Sinclair Ferguson. Chapter 6 "The Burden" discusses this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-6913644189584488762017-02-01T16:01:48.023-05:002017-02-01T16:01:48.023-05:00I've watched videos of some of the "worsh...I've watched videos of some of the "worship" services in Andy Stanley's church that were absolutely repulsive. It astounds me that he and others maintain a voice in their pulpits with the blatant blasphemy and disregard for Christ they spew. It seems they are the equivalent of politicians who push beyond the limits to find that their followers have no boundary lines. I think the distinction between the true and the false is coming more into focus...the separation of Christ's few from the deceived multitude. So many do not have ears to hear the truth. They prefer an emotional experience and entertainment.<br /><br />Also, Andy Stanley is a fast speaker and man of many words. I personally think its a technique he uses to impress his listeners with all his knowledge and don't give them an opportunity to process his words before moving on to his next point. He talks over their ability to think.<br /><br />I lost respect for Billy Graham years ago because of his ecumenical association with the pope and regard for Roman Catholic religion. To me, that's an unacceptable dividing line.Sherylnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-86156323618745536452017-02-01T15:25:00.333-05:002017-02-01T15:25:00.333-05:00Great post, Elizabeth. Just goes to show that the ...Great post, Elizabeth. Just goes to show that the popular teachers can be wrong. Or that they can start out solid and drift away from the truth. we have to be Bereans and compare what is taught to scripture, not just blindly trust someone. People can be in error, they can be deceived, and they can be false teachers. So many trust Billy graham because he has been around a long time and was more solid once upon a time. He also has (from the beginning of ministry?) compromised with the Roman Catholic Church and sent Roman Catholics who came forward at his evangelistic crusades back to their RC church. Some point to a train trip he took once with a former cardinal as the turning point for Graham on this issue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-23302989030106661792017-02-01T08:49:04.569-05:002017-02-01T08:49:04.569-05:00One more thing, Jesus doesn't need "stree...One more thing, Jesus doesn't need "street cred".<br /><br />Here's a passage, let's call it food for thought: 2 Peter 2. Just start at the top.<br /><br />-CarolynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-72914137615235873112017-02-01T08:43:59.671-05:002017-02-01T08:43:59.671-05:00"Andy Stanley continues to deny our fundament..."Andy Stanley continues to deny our fundamental doctrines ... The way his church treats worship tells us this, too. Just last month he had go-go dancers as part of the singing."<br /><br />Go-go dancers?! <br /><br />I knew he did the "fun" (his word, not mine) Beatles performance and some other similar garbage during "worship" last year. <br /><br />Churches that promote him have leadership with (at best) minimal discernment.<br /><br />-CarolynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com