tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post256321207820039356..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: Discernment case in point: Glennon Doyle Melton comes out as gayElizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-38940797091906191372017-06-19T06:26:28.370-04:002017-06-19T06:26:28.370-04:001. 'OMg'? Third commandment: do not take t...1. 'OMg'? Third commandment: do not take the Lord's name in vain.<br /><br />2. Jesus came to seek and save the lost. Poor or rich. If he was only 'for the poor and marginalized', then Matthew, Abraham, Job, Nicodemus, and Joseph of Arimathea would not have been saved. They were rich popular, not poor and marginalized<br /><br />3. Comparing what someone who claims to be a teacher to scripture isn't judging. Only God judges the final destination. We judge their words and actions. "judge with right judgment." John 7:24<br /><br />4. It is loving to speak of sin. If we do what you say, none of the biblical examples of Paul, Peter, all the Prophets, and even Jesus could be called "not loving."<br /><br />5. We are SUPPOSED to be closed-minded about sin. As a matter of fact, we're supposed to kill it.Ephesians 4:22 says,<br /><br /> to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, 23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.<br /><br />6. Homosexuality is a sin. Did you catch that phrase in the verse above?<br /><br />"deceitful desires." On your page, you state "I am gay." Homosexuality and lesbianism is a sin for which you will be sent to hell. All unrepentant sinners of any kind will be sent to hell. All repentant sinners go to heaven. You are living in sin.<br /><br />"For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error." Romans 1:26-27<br /><br />I pray that you repent so you can enjoy the glories of God and be eternally satisfied in Him in heaven, and not receiving the due penalty for your lesbianism in hell. Please consider these thingsElizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-81468511446690764082017-06-19T00:04:50.456-04:002017-06-19T00:04:50.456-04:00Omg you are missing the whole point. Jesus was for...Omg you are missing the whole point. Jesus was for the poor and marginalized. When you judge Glennon you judge Jesus. This is not love that you are being biblical about. You speak division and closemindedness. This is not of God.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18103762538324112477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-30962906598238303462016-12-14T06:25:25.496-05:002016-12-14T06:25:25.496-05:00Thank you Melody!Thank you Melody!Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-10900615192847904162016-12-14T06:02:37.585-05:002016-12-14T06:02:37.585-05:00Elizabeth, so encouraged!! by your stance. I conti...Elizabeth, so encouraged!! by your stance. I continually find myself in hot water with both family members and friends due to the fact I will not bow to baal on this issue, or any immoral behavior. Thankyou!!! so much. Melody LueckeMelody Lueckehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09496661520178219348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-44711551722112205242016-11-17T05:58:07.666-05:002016-11-17T05:58:07.666-05:00Bios:Michelle is a 40 something homeschooling mom ...Bios:Michelle is a 40 something homeschooling mom of multiple children, Erin is a youngish single (I assume single because she never mentions a husband), DebbieLynne is a married woman with Cerebral Palsy and types with a headstick, and Sharon is a homeschooling mom with health issues. The gamut of women at different stages!Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-38269848239077289372016-11-17T05:44:17.293-05:002016-11-17T05:44:17.293-05:00Only 4 articles, what a pitiful state of things. B...Only 4 articles, what a pitiful state of things. But praise the Lord for the 4,adn for you to whom He gave discernment and can identify the truth!<br /><br />Michelle Lesley offers good teachings at her web page. MichellelesleyBooks.com. <br /><br />Erin Benziger has a podcast called Equipping Eve. (equippingeve.org). <br /><br />DebbieLynne Kespert writes good blog essays. https://headstickdeb.com/<br /><br />Sharon Lareau is solid. http://chapter3min.org/author/strandexec/<br /><br />You can see their blogrolls and expand from there... :)Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-81485012293710649442016-11-16T17:31:24.284-05:002016-11-16T17:31:24.284-05:00Thank you for your article! I was invited by a fri...Thank you for your article! I was invited by a friend to attend the Charlotte NC Women of Faith conference where GDM was a surprise guest speaker. I had never heard of her and the audience received in a warm, almost worshipful way. <br />Since then, I am left so confused and disheartened by our Christian culture acceptance of 'anything goes'. It truly grieves me, and I'm concerned for the potentially millions of women being lead astray, or further confused about their sexuality. I scoured the internet for anyone who dared to speak Biblical truth into this situation, and I don't mean just homosexuality, but also idolatry, and honestly the lack of Scripture, and foundational teachings of Christ. I found four articles. People who know me know I love and give freely, no matter what the burdens and brokenness of those I serve and live among may be. <br />Why aren't more Believers talking about this? I know you mentioned several Bible teachers, who I also respect. But are there any other women who realize that this is heresy? I'd love any recommendations to connect me to them.<br />Thank you so much!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06134002963165154094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-8053873379583259692016-11-16T16:12:02.995-05:002016-11-16T16:12:02.995-05:00Glennon is basically a New Ager, so no, it is not ...Glennon is basically a New Ager, so no, it is not surprising news. I hope there are.people warning her of her errors (not that she doesn't know better, but still, deception is an awfully strong thing) and praying for her. I do feel badly for her for her husband's cheating. Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00217231988148068051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-29062726645025609352016-11-16T15:40:49.094-05:002016-11-16T15:40:49.094-05:00Hi Jennifer,
I appreciate what you are trying to ...Hi Jennifer,<br /><br />I appreciate what you are trying to say. I will clarify by agreeing that I have also found some doctrine errors in some with premill eschatology. No one is exempt from error. Acts 17:11. But from my observation, those who are premill do have the correct hermeneutic framework: literal, grammatical, historical.<br /><br />I have found far greater problems with those who have a hermeneutic framework that is not literal, historical, and grammatical. Their misguided hermeneutic framework does affect many other doctrines. An example, many reformed hold to infant baptism. Some take it so far as to speak of so-called "covenant children", the belief that children of believers will become believers themselves. There is no such guarantee in the Bible.<br /><br />That said, I have little to do with most of what's in the Christian blogosphere. I do appreciate the few I do follow. I choose blogs based on as much total doctrine agreement as possible. Ie, I'm not going to follow someone with whom I disagree on eschatology even if I agree on soteriology. <br /><br />I also have little to do with most of celebrity Christianity, i.e., well-known preachers, known for better or for worse. Same thought process as I have with blogs. <br /><br />That will be all for me on this. My apologies, Elizabeth, I won't go down the rabbit trail any further.<br /><br />Back to the topic at hand: Melton. That woman is clearly a disaster to follow. I know next to nothing about her - and don't care to learn any more about her - but I am thankful to those who have called this issue out to the table, because there are no doubt some sisters in Christ who may have been swayed by Melton.<br /><br />-CarolynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-52585661753113225582016-11-16T13:12:20.751-05:002016-11-16T13:12:20.751-05:00Hi Carolyn,
I too believe the correct eschatologic...Hi Carolyn,<br />I too believe the correct eschatological position is premill but unlike you, I have found a boat load of error among this group on other aspects of theology. I have quit reading any blogs that have to do with end times, with the exception of Elizabeth's, because of this. On the other hand, I have several blogs that I read where the author does not hold that view of eschatology, but we agree on more important doctrines like the doctrines of grace, literal 6 day creation, etc. Jennifer_Onehiredlateinthedayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00929770440048871760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-50495481205761377192016-11-16T10:33:20.137-05:002016-11-16T10:33:20.137-05:00Clarification - "rejecting this woman" -...Clarification - "rejecting this woman" - in the sense that it is abundantly clear that she is not a sound Bible teacher; her teaching should be flatly rejected. Someone who claims to be a Christian while pursuing willful sin should be a major red flag.<br /><br />-CarolynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-31993276168571038942016-11-16T08:24:35.781-05:002016-11-16T08:24:35.781-05:00Saw this headline before you posted. Was going to...Saw this headline before you posted. Was going to give you a heads up, since I remembered you previously addressed this problematic woman (the name rang a bell), but I knew you'd find this new article without any help. <br /><br />Rejecting this woman should be a no brainer. To the one who said they're sitting on the fence, the devil owns the fence.<br /><br />As for recommended resources, I personally avoid anyone who isn't strongly premillennial. As your reader bloggerjim said in a comment in another of your posts, there's too much misinterpretation of Scripture from those men (amill's, also postmil's and preterists) due to their incorrect method of scriptural interpretation. In other words, eschatological error is really an overall hermeneutic error. <br /><br />-CarolynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-1336336052087008132016-11-16T05:49:44.109-05:002016-11-16T05:49:44.109-05:00Hi Lisa and Momma24,
Thank you so much for your k...Hi Lisa and Momma24,<br /><br />Thank you so much for your kind words of support! You are welcome here whether it's to lurk or to comment. I cherish the ladies' readership and thank you both for visiting!Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-36523831344750840462016-11-16T05:43:41.239-05:002016-11-16T05:43:41.239-05:00Thank you Hakam Adam!Thank you Hakam Adam!Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-24660018300260869262016-11-16T00:46:42.065-05:002016-11-16T00:46:42.065-05:00I, too, applaud your firm Christ-honoring stance, ...I, too, applaud your firm Christ-honoring stance, Elizabeth. I'm a new reader of your blog, and I have to tell you...it's so refreshing to read your Biblically-based writings without apologies. Now is not the time to waiver. I've seen many friends and family members fall away because they put more stock in what the world says versus what God says. His Word NEVER changes. It's not to be edited, revised, altered, manipulated, updated -- it just IS. So many today want the Word to fit into their world, but we're not even supposed to be of this world. In it, yes. But only for a short time until He calls His children home. I was never a reader of Melton's. I visited her site once years ago, but when I learned how loosely she blogged about her life, I quickly ran from that mess. <br /><br />I think I'll stick around for awhile. I desperately need some Christian friends who live out their faith, and my circle seems to be getting smaller by the day.<br /><br />God bless! And thanks for providing a place where we ladies can fellowship and learn to live out a life of faith that is pleasing to Him.Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-18015957339193187932016-11-15T23:07:45.851-05:002016-11-15T23:07:45.851-05:00If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to...If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9<br />Amen! <br /><br />Thank you for boldly proclaiming truth. Momma24https://www.blogger.com/profile/01251695059471911430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-12497044633298081032016-11-15T21:19:51.107-05:002016-11-15T21:19:51.107-05:0010/10 will read again. I'm most interested to ...10/10 will read again. I'm most interested to reread your 2014 article, because I remember reading it. I anticipate being impressed by your prescience and thereby also encouraged. Thank you for what you're doing for women in the church (and out), because as a Christian man, I have every reason to be invested in this. Hakam Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114741274619345717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-10817919870244622622016-11-15T18:05:26.068-05:002016-11-15T18:05:26.068-05:00Amen to this! Excellent response to sympathizers ...Amen to this! Excellent response to sympathizers and "empathizers"!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-50909379271900876772016-11-15T15:05:06.612-05:002016-11-15T15:05:06.612-05:00I agree empathy is all important. I completely emp...I agree empathy is all important. I completely empathize with Jesus, His sufferings to fulfill the Law and release us from bondage. I am empathetic with His exhortations and expectations for pure and holy living. He is the Way, and the truth and the Life.<br /><br />As far as false teachers go, like Melton, who use the name of Jesus and put homosexual sin under His umbrella of love, I have NO empathy. False teachers are agents of satan, out to lie, steal, deceive, and make merchandise of the brethren. I am not empathetic with that. I am with Paul:<br /><br />As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9<br /><br />I don't think anyone can say Paul wasn't empathetic. He loved his flock dearly. However, he had zero empathy for false teachers. I don't either. <br /><br />Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-5114206214798336692016-11-15T12:29:36.312-05:002016-11-15T12:29:36.312-05:00I myself admire Glennons work, and am on the fence...I myself admire Glennons work, and am on the fence as to her recent changes, but as a sister in Christ I would like to remind you of one thing: empathy. there is no attempt to understand in your words, and if you don't meet people where they are (as Jesus did) you will not be able to lead them where they need to go. There's a way to say "I disagree with you" and "I love you" at the same time. Please consider this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-76611135009082062832016-11-15T05:30:59.842-05:002016-11-15T05:30:59.842-05:00I have not heard of this woman, so thank you for w...I have not heard of this woman, so thank you for writing about her. <br />Ginnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04920963862516551109noreply@blogger.com