tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post4267212609409099443..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: Thomas Jefferson's bible and the danger of doubtElizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-20343772213438237122012-12-11T06:12:18.461-05:002012-12-11T06:12:18.461-05:00The religious beliefs of most of the main founding...The religious beliefs of most of the main founding fathers ranged between Deism and atheism, with an unhealthy dollop of secular humanism thrown in.<br /><br />It's important to remember that just because they mention "God" or the "Creator" it does not mean they mean the same God as a bible believing Christian. Muslims claim God and so do Mormons.<br /><br />John Adams was a Unitarian, which was a non-trinitarian Protestant Christian. Adams rejected many fundamental doctrines of conventional Christianity, such as the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, therefore we cannot call him a Christian.<br /><br />Ben Franklin was a deist and identified himself as such in his autobiography. He believed that in order for government to be good, man must be virtuous, and that organized religion was the vehicle to that virtuousness. (He believed mostly a works based religion, at root). However, he did not adhere to the Christian beliefs of Jesus as the only way and salvation by justification as a necessary part of that virtue. At the end of his life he retained a strong faith in a God as the wellspring of morality and goodness in man- just not especially Jesus per se. He had a passion for virtue and good works but denied Jesus and the personal, indwelling Holy Spirit as the regenerator of those. We cannot call him a Christian.<br /><br />Geo Washington's religious beliefs were a muddle even to those who were his peers during Washington's lifetime. He never proclaimed Jesus or Christ publicly or privately and was more Deist than a believer in a personal God.<br /><br />It is the same with most of the founding fathers. They adhered to the notion of God or Creator as a philosophical construct but in varying degrees denies the personal divine and rejected most of the fundamental tenets of our faith.<br /><br />I focused on Jefferson in this essay because I wanted to point out about the Jefferson bible. This essay was mostly about Jefferson.Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-23007988534427970892012-12-10T22:37:49.942-05:002012-12-10T22:37:49.942-05:00Dear Sister, Thank you for ministry to the body. ...Dear Sister, Thank you for ministry to the body. Jesus blesses me so through your posts. See you soon..Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10240254624868368972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-66046232776225579732012-12-10T21:26:58.915-05:002012-12-10T21:26:58.915-05:00I do not consider Jefferson to have been a Christi...I do not consider Jefferson to have been a Christian, but I think that you are doing the founding fathers an injustice by focusing solely on the beliefs of only one of their members. Of all of the founding fathers that I have studied so far, Jefferson is the only one for which I have not discovered a solid testimony of salvation. I have included the testimonies of several others including Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, James Madison, John Adams, James Wilson, etc. on my new website: http://christian76.com. <br /><br />I have also included a quote in which Alexander Hamilton called Jefferson an atheist and suggested that congress take legal steps to prevent his becoming president. Here's an excerpt from a letter that he wrote to John Jay:<br /><br />“The scruples of delicacy and propriety, as relative to a common course of things, ought to yield to the extraordinary nature of the crisis. They ought not to hinder the taking of a legal and constitutional step to prevent an atheist in religion, and a fanatic in politics, from getting possession of the helm of state.”<br /><br />You can find a link to the original source of this quote on the Christian76.com website.Bill Fortenberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205053444988720146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-50121629524102812382012-12-10T20:49:34.801-05:002012-12-10T20:49:34.801-05:00Hi Drew,
The earth is not 14 billion years old.
...Hi Drew,<br /><br />The earth is not 14 billion years old. <br /><br />We determine how yom should be interpreted in Genesis 1:5-2:2 simply by examining the context in which we find the word and then comparing its context with how we see its usage elsewhere in Scripture. By doing this we let Scripture interpret itself. The Hebrew word yom is used 2301 times in the Old Testament. Outside of Genesis 1, yom plus a number (used 410 times) always indicates an ordinary day, i.e., a 24-hour period. The words “evening” and “morning” together (38 times) always indicate an ordinary day. Yom + “evening” or “morning” (23 times) always indicates an ordinary day. Yom + “night” (52 times) always indicates an ordinary day.<br /><br />The context in which the word yom is used in Genesis 1:5-2:2, describing each day as “the evening and the morning,” makes it quite clear that the author of Genesis meant 24-hour periods. http://www.gotquestions.org/Genesis-days.html<br /><br />If you add the ages of the men listed in genealogies in the bible they add to a record of life on earth as being about 6000 years old.<br /><br />It is not "possible" as you say that God made the earth in six literal days, HE DID, because HE TOLD US HE DID. You must understand that the whole bible is true.<br /><br /> You can learn more at Answers in Genesis on these topics<br />http://www.answersingenesis.org/Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-43621528678984703682012-12-10T20:26:34.326-05:002012-12-10T20:26:34.326-05:00Hi elizabeth!
Well, obviously God has given you t...Hi elizabeth!<br /><br />Well, obviously God has given you truth and understanding. I find it very telling when someone claims one part of the Bible true (or to be the true gospel) and turn all the rest of it down. I thought we were to view the WHOLE Bible as true. =)<br /><br />God made the natural universe, and science (if studied with integrity) is just a study of that creation. I think the Big Bang did happen (if I'm wrong it doesn't change anything) but if it did, God made it. Also, in the original Hebrew I believe day is written as "yom" which has multiple definitions: day, 24 hour day, a period of time. (to name but a few)<br /><br />My point is, six distinct periods of time from the viewpoint of Earth, that is centered on the events of earths creation process. I do believe that it is possible that the universe since the Big Bang is 14 billion years old, I also believe it is entirely possible that God created all of it in six 24-hour periods. Either way I trust that the Bible is true, all of it.<br /><br />Love, from DrewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com