tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post7764141104407120843..comments2023-10-07T04:07:56.527-04:00Comments on The End Time: Sayings and mottos that sound pious but aren't. #2: "I don't use commentaries because they're men's wisdom. I only use God's Word when I study."Elizabeth Pratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-88444507696217033412014-04-07T13:09:05.620-04:002014-04-07T13:09:05.620-04:00There was at least one other woman who left Charlo...There was at least one other woman who left Charlotte thinking that isn't the way to learn the bible! I had a lot of misgivings about Beth Moore before I went with a group to Charlotte. I went with an open mind I wanted to see what all the hype was about and had I missed something in her bible studes or what? (I had done two and didn't get anything from them) I too went home and felt sick afterwards. Actually I felt sick there and was very uncomfortable! I have read both your and Glenn Chatfield blogs concerning her since then. I have tried to talk with the ladies of my church on this and was met with a lot of criticism. I talked with my pastor who said he'd look into it and never did. Now the only bible studies they do are Beth Moore. <br /><br />I have found a church that does true bible studies. We have been doing a verse by verse study of Romans and I've enjoyed it and have learned so much. Thank you for your discernment and your willingness to sound the alarm when so many are just going with the flow, so to speak.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-86973001908297910222014-04-01T21:34:17.135-04:002014-04-01T21:34:17.135-04:00Yes! Thank you! I'm riveted to twitter. 8.3 wi...Yes! Thank you! I'm riveted to twitter. 8.3 with aftershocks in 6.2 range and several 5.0+ quakes. It sparked a tsunami and could arrive Hawaii as early as 3 am and California s early as 7 am<br /><br />The false prophets hurt my heart so bad that sometimes I feel like Jeremiah did<br /><br />"My anguish, my anguish! I writhe in pain! Oh the walls of my heart! My heart is beating wildly; I cannot keep silent, for I hear the sound of the trumpet, the alarm of war."<br />Jer 4:19Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-10409153882531886672014-04-01T21:21:00.329-04:002014-04-01T21:21:00.329-04:00Did you hear about the earthquake in Chile?
I cann...Did you hear about the earthquake in Chile?<br />I cannot wait for the rapture, when all of these false prophets will be judged by God. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-48554488721082128752014-04-01T18:51:29.787-04:002014-04-01T18:51:29.787-04:00WOW!! That lady really is off the deep end more t...WOW!! That lady really is off the deep end more than I thought!!! So sad that she is teaching women such poor methods of study. What's worse is that there are way, way too many "pastors" who promote her and churches who are immersed in her "Bible studies."Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-88734730714729685252014-04-01T11:32:50.984-04:002014-04-01T11:32:50.984-04:00Thanks Glenn, that is all very good advice. I agre...Thanks Glenn, that is all very good advice. I agree with the irony of Moore. I attended one Living Proof conference. She explained that the way she approached structuring the three day bible teaching curriculum for Charlotte (and each city gets a different study) is that she prayed and waited for the Lord to put a word into her mind. (!)<br /><br />Our word was "hold fast". For other cities it'd be 'courage', or 'confidence'. Then she looked up (In English) all the verses that had that word in it, OT and NT (but this strips the word of its context and meaning). Then she put together a pop psychology of what God must have meant when He put the word in there, using bible-ese, some other verses to make it sound legit. She taught with lots of personal life stories which she used as the basis for the verse, rather than the other way around. Anyway, then she made an acrostic, where we had to write 'Hold fast" down the side of our page and she gave us mantras or mottoes to say with the beginning letter of the word. "He is great", 'Own your choices" "Living right" for a loose example. That's the gist.<br /><br />Now keep in mind that our Living Proof conference was a sell-out, with about 30,000 women in attendance. When Moore explained how she approached developing the teaching for our weekend, she wasn't only sharing. She was *teaching* other women how to study the bible this way! So 29,999 women went home likely thinking, "If that's how Beth Moore studies, then that must be how to study the bible." <br /><br />I went home and was sick. I've never lost my hatred for what Moore is doing to women in the name of Jesus and hatred of her subtly evil way to get women AWAY from the bible. Hopefully I was not the only one who was aghast at this whole scenario, but given that she is still so influential, I doubt there were many other women who left thinking, "This is NOT the way to learn the bible!"Elizabeth Pratahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04341086233512507156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2736720231951988221.post-10468055590465454412014-04-01T10:45:07.167-04:002014-04-01T10:45:07.167-04:00I taught High School Sunday School for a decade an...I taught High School Sunday School for a decade and always taught my students how to use commentaries. One important point I made was to never use just one, because many scholars can give a better overall view. And sometimes a commentary may be excellent on most points but poor on others (such as a theistic evolution view of Genesis).<br /><br />I always start my study with a formal translation of the Bible, and compare it to other formal translations. Then I like to look at what the dynamic versions say - I always use them as commentaries - and for things I find difficult to understand I then look at the commentaries.<br /><br />One needs to look as commentaries as essentially lessons from good teachers to help you understand everything from the culture of the time, the nuances of the original languages, and even how N.T. references the O.T. where you wouldn't normally catch the reference.<br /><br />If anyone needs a commentary, it is Beth Moore. What's ironic is for all her teachings against commentaries, all her followers are using HER teachings as THEIR commentaries!Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.com