Sunday, February 27, 2011

Comet Elenin is coming

Comet Elenin Update HERE
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There is a dust-up about Comet Elenin between the Government science sites and the conspiracy fringe sites that I think is pretty interesting. As always, the truth lays somewhere in between.

On NASA's Ask an Astrobiologist site, there is a pretty cranky disclaimer at the very top:
"Special Note: Ask an Astrobiologist has received more than 5000 questions about Nibiru and Doomsday 2012, with more than 400 answers posted. Please read a summary of the answers that have already been posted, view a video on these topics, use the search feature and read the FAQ’s before submitting questions on these topics."

LOL. Five thousand questions is a lot of questions on the same topic. Obviously it is of concern to the populace. As the end approaches, the lost and the unaware have increasingly turned their interests to events that are depicted in the bible. Though these people deny the bible as the source of truth, they perpetuate the events in their mind, cultures, and discussions through conspiracies and pseudoscience. They refer to Mother Shipton or Nostradamus as originators of these prophesies and quote them as gospel. Planet X or Nibiru is one of these events. How much of what they say about Planet X is true and how much of it is bunk?

The Nibiru collision is a conspiracy-predicted disastrous encounter between the Earth and a large planetary object planet or asteroid, in either a collision or a near-miss in which certain people believe will take place soon. Believers in this doomsday event usually refer to this object as Planet X or Nibiru. According to Wikipedia, "the idea that a planet-sized object could possibly collide with or pass by Earth in the near future is not supported by any scientific evidence and has been rejected as pseudoscience by astronomers and planetary scientists." However, a large comet was just discovered in late December by Leonid Elenin, an amateur Russian sky watcher, and Comet Elenin as it is now called will zoom between the sun and the earth by fall 2011. Why Wikipedia states so matter of factly that a planet sized object will never pass close to earth is a mystery, because obviously, the appearance of this comet- which was unknown to science before a few months ago- exists and is now classified as a PHO (potentially hazardous object.) The surprise appearance of the comet and its imminent near-passage to our planet has gotten the conspiracy theorists all riled up!

In Babylonian astronomy, Nibiru is a term of the highest point of the ecliptic, i.e. the point of summer solstice, and its associated constellation. Did you notice that the planets, constellations, moons, and most of technology are all named after the demonic/pagan realms? Wouldn't it be nice to have a planet's moon named, say, after Moses? Alas, I digress.

Back on Ask an Astrobiologist, a person recently questioned about Comet Elenin:

"Question:  I've recently heard about the discovery of comet Elenin, which is scheduled to come close to earth around October-November 2011 – Is it possible it will be an extinction level event? AND Comet Elenin: How close to earth will it get? And can we expect it to cause any damage? AND I have read that Russian scientists are now predicting that asteroid Apophis will impact the Earth April 13 2036 causing terrible damage. I understand that the Russians are planning a mission to stop the asteroid."

Some people even say that the amateur skywatcher Leonid Elenin's name is really code for ELE-nin, or extinction level event. See what I mean about the conspiracies?

"ANSWER: Both Comet Elenin and Asteroid Apophis are real, but these concerns about collisions are without foundation. Unfortunately there are a few popular websites that are known for suggesting multiple catastrophes, including popularizing the 2012 hoax. Two that show up in any search for “Comet Elenin” are godlikeproductions and abovetopsecret, both of which predict either a very close pass by Earth or a collision. If instead you consult dependable websites like wikipedia and skyandtelescope you will find that Comet Elenin will come nowhere near the Earth. At its closest (on 10 September 2011) it will be more than 25 million km from our planet."

Astro-scientists measure celestial distances in our orbit by AU's, or astronomical units. Initially, Comet Elenin was predicted to pass earth 25 AU's away from earth. That distance was narrowed to .15 AUs, the 25 million km the Astrobiologist mentioned. How far is .15 AUs in real people distances? 13 million miles. The sun is 92 million miles away. Seems that the guys at abovetopsecret and godlikeproductions were right when they said "very close pass by earth"! Elenin's debris trail could be rather large so for the people on earth on September when Elenin arrives, it could well be a very bad day. On the other hand, the miss distance could be comfortable and simply put on a good show for backyard astronomers.

My point here is two fold. The Astrobiologist said that people should not depend on conspiracy sites like abovetopsecret for their information, but dependable sites like Wikipedia. Wikipedia? Really?? I about choked on my corn flakes when I read that. Wikipedia is just as liberally biased as any site, so biased, that Conservapedia, an English-language wiki project written from an American conservative Christian point of view was created to present more accurate information than Wikipedia.

But relying on government sites for information is just as fraught with error, bias, and lies. The United States Geological Survey has repeatedly stated that earthquakes are not on the increase, despite their own data telling the opposite story. And do we really think NASA would alert the populace if a planet-sized asteroid was going to crash into earth in September? Of course not. Are the Government's unemployment statistics accurate and presented clearly? No. The data is manipulated. John Williams started Shadowstats to present the same data that the government does and calculates it the way the government used to, before things got so bad the government started hiding data. And when was the last time anything really helpful came out of the White House site? The [new] Press Secretary simply refuses to answer any questions these days.

Out of desperation, many people do turn to conspiracy sites, because the information is naked and unfiltered by corporate mainstream media.

The popular blog Death By A Thousand Paper Cuts published a list of the top 80 alternative news-gathering sites on the net. Abovetopsecret and godlikeproductions- the two sites that the Astrobiologist chided us for reading, were in the top five.

 What does that tell you. The very fact he mentioned the conspiracy sites lets us know that citizen-led journalism is often-times truer than government or corporation-led news media, and likely really getting on the government's nerves. Of course, you have to wade through profanity, stupidity, and real conspiracies like reptilians living inside us to get to any nuggets, but many times citizens feel they have to wade through just as much when reading White House-released unemployment statistics or economic news.

My second point is that there is increasingly a difficulty in learning the truth, apart from the bible. There is no need to read conspiracy sites about the Illuminati that want to take over the would to reform it into a New World Order. That is a real event that is described in Chapter 13 of Revelation. There is no need to sift through conspiracies about Nibiru/Planet X because that is described in Revelation 8. There is no need to turn to murky quatrains in Nostradamus to learn about extinction level events that the government is secretly preparing for. The Great Flood was an Extinction Level Event. The Tribulation will be another Extinction Level Event. Three out of four Jews will die in the Tribulation. 2/3 to 3/4 of all earth's population will die in the Tribulation. All the oceans will die. All the rivers will die. All the islands will die. All the mountains will crumble. That is really an extinction level event! You do not need to read conspiracy sites or read between the lines in Corporate or Government media. It's all there in the bible. And that's one book where you can count on the information being true and reliable 1000%, forever!!




84 comments:

  1. Thank you so much for this article. I look through the mentioned conspiracy sites daily and it's hard to filter out the truth sometimes. I had made a commitment yesterday to slow my reading of these sites because it was taking away from my Bible study time. It was nice to have a fellow Christian clear some things up for me.

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  2. You are quite welcome PintoBean :) Cute name, by the way.

    Most of what the conspiracy sites perpetuate is a bastarization of what the bible says will happen, just with a demonic or pagan twist. However, the sites are valuable for their links to world news...so it depends on how well our filter-guard is up. But overall, I applaud your commitment to prayer and study of the Word. THAT is always time well spent.

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  3. Thanks for your take on the comet. Interesting read. I wonder, though, why you would remark that wikipedia is biased, but then say an American conservative Christian perspective is more accurate. Not all Christians agree about their religion. Not all Conservatives agree, and neither do Americans. Put these three together to forge a specific perspective, and you lose objectivity, because you are filtering through not one, but three subjective belief systems to suit a particular agenda. Not to say you shouldn't read it, but to say it is above bias is in itself pretty biased. I'm sure there are plenty of Israeli Jews, Japanese Buddhists, British atheists, etc who would say they have the correct unbiased perspective as well. I wouldn't agree with that bias either.

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  4. Reptilians =demons The Bible says that Jesus casted out demons.If people believe the Bible how come does not believe in reptilians?? I do because of my own experiences. It is (saddly) truth! I discovered that when doing Evp

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  5. antonio, you stated a theorem in the first part of your comment, "reptilian=demons." then you continued with stating your corollary, and asked thru an If-Then statement why people don't believe in reptilians if they believe in the bible. But you did not prove your theorem. Where does it say that reptilians=demons?

    As for your experience, this is a time of great deception, we are warned to guard against angels of light who masquerade as ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15). No person can accept personal experience these days as truth, because of the demons who abound and are out to deceive. The ONLY truth and the ONLY barometer for any truth is the bible.

    So in a final re-phrasing, where does it say in the bible that reptilians are demons?

    I don't mean to be harsh with you, antonio, it sounds like you have a scary experience. If you had a run-in with a demon and lived to tell the tale, and are now saved by the blood of Christ, then you and I can praise His name! But I do mean to be blunt: NO supernatural experience these days is valid until and unless it is supported by scriptures from the bible.

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  6. "NO supernatural experience these days is valid until and unless it is supported by scriptures from the bible."
    WHOA! I was with you the whole way down this thread until this quote.
    Do you mean to say that if I see or have interacted with a ghost/apparition, that it is not a valid supernatural experience if it's not in the Bible?
    That is incredibly closed minded.

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  7. Hi Anonymous,

    YES, that is exactly what I mean. No supernatural experience is valid unless it is confirmed by the bible. As for being closed-minded, yes, I am. Thank you. But explain this, by closing myself to any experience or truth that is outside the bible, what am I closing myself off from, exactly? Isn't Jesus enough for you?

    It all comes down to this, either you believe the bible, or you don't. Either it is your truth barometer, or it isn't. As for the "open-minded" people who accept truth outside the bible, as for accepting "experiences" over the Word, when you are that open, you will fall for anything. Including satan's tricks.

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  8. Wrong about the ELE in March 2011 as its now April 10, 2011.....Just seems that so much of the information is based on just opinion...So....No One knows the time of our Lords return......so...don't tell people to bug out because you think its gonna happen..How can u say "Peace out" and mislead people who listen to your hypothesis? you may be sober but what you say is not quite sane. You are proved incorrect by this date..April 10 ,2011.

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  9. Anonymous,

    1. I didn't say that Elenin would arrive in March.
    2. Where did you get an April date for Elenin? Still so much of what is going with the comet is speculative, absent of NASA's reporting on it.
    3. I didn't tell people to bug out.
    4. The hypothesis of the rapture is not a hypothesis, it is a sure thing.
    5. It looks to me that you made a comment somewhere else and just re-pasted it here.
    6. Your opinion of my sanity is of no importance to me. I do thank you for reading the blog. I hope you got the point that Jesus is the point.

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  10. If the 'reptilians' didn't exist, why have the been documented throughout ancient history, 'gods from the sky', ancient astronauts, evidence upon evidence piling about these 'gods', depicted in drawings dated thousands of years ago. It is a good article, do not get me wrong and i enjoyed reading it. The original bible was written by men, when recording our thoughts was 'new' to us, and after 2000 or so years, guess how convoluted the bible has gotten, this also applies to other religions as well. I don't judge based on it either, and i agree that our religious texts do contain this information, but they also contain disinformation as well. Even with the bible you have to pick through to find the truths of the matter.

    Still a good article though, very well done.

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  11. Hi Matt,

    The bible was not written by man. It was written by the Holy Spirit. Therefore it is total truth.

    2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

    All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

    'reptilians' are in fact fallen angels (demons).

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  12. Wow! After you disagreed with poor Antonio. This has become completely subjective. You know there are other "bibles" known by other names, the foundations of other religions, with contradictions galore. You seemed like the type of person who would remain objective. There was no such thing as the scriptures when these biblical events took place, does that mean the spiritual experiences of the apostles and prophets were " Not valid"?

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  13. 'Poor' Antonio IS poor: poor in spirit. Only the holy bible is true. Yes there are other bibles, none are written by Jesus, who IS the Word, who IS the Truth. Objectively, there is only one truth. If there is more than one, how do you know which one is true? You can't. Therefore it is a certainty that the Word, Jesus, is the only truth. Deviating from that or refuting that or denying means utter eternal destruction.

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  14. I just stumbled upon this website, and i'm sorry to say, but it's mostly garbage. I'm a in Graduate School for Biology right now, and the information presented in this website is more biased than fox news. You perpetually suggest that you're presenting information "objectively". But to present information "objectively" means to present information and information alone, without one's opinion. EVEN IF the bible wasn't a story a book, the fact that you refer to it as concrete evidence for proof against conspiracy theories is a conspiracy in itself. You're refuting radical far-fetched ideas of others with your own radical far-fetched ideas....seems a bit hypocritical to me. Do you have a degree? Have you ever taken a university level science course? If so, then I urge you to return to school and brush up on the Scientific Method and how to PROPERLY research scientific data. Reading information from a conspiracy website or from the 700 club doesn't make information true no more than being a Christian makes you better than a Muslim. There's a bigger issue at hand here, though. It's far right winged Conservatives like you, with little or no regard for other's rights and values that's destroying the world we live in, not the other way around. I was raised Pentecostal, I know all about the Bible, all about Revelation, and all about how insanely ridiculous it is. Let's try to think for ourselves and step outside of the box for a minute, shall we? Let's look at evidence based on experimentation and hypothesis acceptance or rejection. Let's examine the world through the eyes that evolution gave us. Get real. Stop trying to convince people that the world is going to end via Jesus glorious return.. That was a story meant to provide the Jews with some solace. And if I remember correctly, the Jews didn't even buy it.. Puh-Leez!

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  15. Matt,

    Yes. I have a degree. Two of them. Yes. I have taken University level science courses. Yes. I know how to objectively sift through data. I have done so, with the conclusion that the bible is the only truth. It's not my method with which you disagree. It's my conclusion.

    No the Jews didn't 'buy it.' But the Gentiles did, and do. And in the end, the Jews will. You'll see. You will finally have your empirical data, but it will be too late.

    And, didn't you ask me these same questions before in another post, Matt? Or is it just deja vu all over again? ;)

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  16. Great Info. Starts around 1:01

    http://watchmenradio.podomatic.com/player/web/2011-03-26T21_43_20-07_00

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  17. I listened to a bit of this, I didn't like the way the intro was going. The guest was supposed to be someone named 'Prophet" Stephen Hanson. It seemed the host was urging people to listen to the man rather than the words of the bible. Experience spirituality these days is rampant, and deception is as well. It is prophesied that many would come in His name, and we were warned to be diligent searchers of the Word to determine who is false and who is true. I am immediately suspicious of anyone who calls himself a prophet.

    So I looked Hanson up. Hanson is quoted as saying, of his office as prophet: "That is a heavy responsibility and one that carries with it a heavy burden as well. However, when someone makes a mistake that doesn't mean that that individual is "false." The message, or part of it, at least, didn't come to pass in the manner in which it was spoken. The person hearing the message from God either mixed part of their own understanding, or they just didn't hear it correctly. That doesn't brandish them as "false," but their message as "not true." We need to separate the person from the message."

    This is an error. God doesn't make mistakes, and deliver any message unclearly. One cannot separate the person from the message, because the person being used IS the message. The bible says of false prophets, "Deu 13:1-3 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder,and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them, you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul."

    If there are 'new messages' delivered to guys like Hanson or Smith or Jones, then how sacred is the bible? Where does it end? If he is a preacher expounding on the Word of God to explain it, then that is another matter. But Hanson calls himself a prophet, and sorry, the Word from God is complete. Anything Hanson has to add is not from God.

    Jesus was the last prophet (Heb 1:1). He delivered His completed message (Rev 22:18-19) and that message is the bible.

    People today seek prophets because it's easier to listen to a guy and go your way than it is to actually study and learn to discern the Word of God yourself.

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  18. I agree with everything you've said Elizabeth. I agree 110% with the word of God, which is the TRUTH aka the Holy BIBLE!!! (:

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  19. Many people are talking about Comet Elenin and it's alignments but they're only going to alignment 4. Go to are governments webpage http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=c%2F2010+x1&orb=1 and track Comet Elenin to its fifth alignment. It's around December 21, 2012 coincidence?? I don't know! George H. Compton IV

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  20. Its me the physics student again. As an after thought I remembered comet IRAS-Araki-Alcock. This comet passed within 3 million miles of our planet. Nothing happened. There have been closer passes. Again in those instances, nothing happened. Only God knows what he has in store for us. And He will end the earth and all life on it in His own good time. We CANNOT ignore bible prophecy and rewrite the word of God to fit our own foolish predictions.

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  21. Hello Physics student again,

    You are SO right! We CANNOT ignore bible prophecy and rewrite the word of God to fit our own foolish predictions!

    I wrote in the essay that my point is two-fold. First, government sites, conspiracy sites and other sites, are fraught with lies. It's hard to know who to trust to get accurate information. Second, the only truth is in the bible. There *will* be asteroids and other cosmic disturbances, though, Physics Student; Revelation, Matthew, and Luke tells us that, and I mentioned the chapters above that show when and where.

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  22. Elizabeth,

    Its the physics student. I wanted to thatnk you for your response to my comment. Your essay, as well as your responses have been analytical and well thought out. Much like what I do in my studies and work with astro-physics. I wish that more people wrote as you do. Then maybe some theories might be taken more seriously. I do believe that my science can go to prove the existence of God. And one day I hope to be able to. Too many scientists try to ignore God or flat out deny His existence.
    But I did wish to thank you. From one scholar to another.

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  23. Hello Elizabeth,

    Here are the dates of interest with respect to the heavenly object;

    Aug 30th 2010 pass Jupiter orbit (incoming)
    Jun 26th 2011 pass Mars orbit (incoming)
    Aug 02nd 2011 pass Earth orbit (incoming)
    Aug 17th 2011 pass Venus orbit (incoming)
    Oct 03rd 2011 pass Venus orbit (leaving system)
    Oct 16th 2011 closest point to the Earth
    Oct 19th 2011 pass Earth orbit (leaving system)

    Concern being the size of the object and the possible electrical connection to our sun and the potential for a discharge event as it travels close by the Earth. Comets are not dirty little snow balls. Their tail is the electric discharge made once our sun connects a direct current to an object. Think of a plasma ball when you move your finger across the glass globe. Our weather patterns will be effected. Northern lights may be seen in unusual places as collisions between gaseous particles in the Earth's atmosphere with charged particles released from the sun's own atmosphere being conducted via the comet. There have also been studies in China showing an increases of flu like illness during these close-fly-by events. The tail (depending on length) will follow shortly after Oct 19th up to Nov 4th.

    Advisory of caution being made if the object disrupted the orbital path of any asteroids while crossing the belt. The belt is the region of the Solar System located roughly between the orbits of the planets Mars and Jupiter. It is occupied by numerous irregularly shaped bodies called asteroids. (Basically the remains of Phaeton which is the name of a still considered a hypothetical planet posited to once have existed between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter whose destruction supposedly led to the formation of the asteroid belt.) If it plowed through it may have junk now being dragged behind it. I guess we will find out. Hopefully the object is small, if not, then around Sept 25th we will know as it will eclipses the sun as it passes between us and our star.

    Thanks

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  24. Hi Kelee,

    That is all great information, thank you! Very helpful :)

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  25. Hello Elizabeth,

    Now that I paid my dues for the topic at hand here is my other two cents...

    Anonymous wrote "I do believe that my science can go to prove the existence of God."

    That statement is correct. When the Torah was given to man, it was split into two parts by God. The Word and the hidden. Both sides are needed to gain the completed view of the intention of the truth. Science is our methodology into "the hidden". An example maybe in order to illustrate...

    The Word says "Let there be light" when there was nothing at all aside from the wisdom of God. The Creator successfully challenged the first rule of thermodynamics in doing that first act of willful intent on the first day. Science teaches this to be an impossibility, hence, defining the needed requirement to bring it all about in the first place... One echoes the other... The amazing grace found in the creation account of Genesis is a mere eleven lines, used to describe what science now collaborates as the steps required in bring about that where we find ourselves. It took 6000 years (as a race) for us to discover that hidden gem of truth leading to validation of The Word.

    As far as demons go... they are not fallen angels but are their offspring...

    Thats all for now... take care...

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  26. Hello Kelee,

    I'm sorry, science does not prove God. God's word proves God. He revealed Himself to us, and that was thru His Word. Science is a man-made construct to attempt to understand the world around us, which has continually been proven faulty. How can science prove the things that will happen in the Tribulation? They will be supernatural. The Two witnesses resurrecting? Science fail. Demons who bite and people who have such pain and want to die, BUT CAN'T?? Science fail. Science cannot prove God.

    One will either have faith in God or one will will rely on man's constructs to vainly attempt to see Him through a human lens.

    As for the Torah, it is only 5 books of the bible. The holy bible is the proof of God we need to learn more about Him. There is nothing hidden any more. All was revealed by God to us, through His word.

    It did not take 6000 years for us "to discover that hidden gem of truth leading to validation of The Word." He has been revealing it all along. That is how and why so many throughout the 6000 years believed.

    A Demon is a fallen angel that assists Satan in the opposition of God. The offspring from the unholy joining of these fallen angels and women (Gen 6:5) are the Nephilim. They were the mighty men of old, who God used His people (lastly David) to wipe out.

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  27. Hey Elizabeth

    I can agree with the context given in your answer of the first paragraph. My point being, that science validates The Word as well. The incorrect use of science employed by man at times was not in the conversation.

    We have an inquisitive nature, so we are going to look at where we are. That is a natural event on our path out of bondage. God knew this and expected it.

    Yes people have been faithful without science needed. However, it has taken us 6000 years to close the gap between faith and science. It is two different disciplines leading to the same conclusion. That is the hidden gem.

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  28. Science does not validate the word. Ever. Never. Not once. Forget it. God validates the word because He cannot lie. Science is puny and idiotic compared to His truth. Science does not validate the word.

    If you look to science to validate God, you have no faith. "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1.

    And 6000 years to 'close the gap'? Really? LOL, then why can't science tell us how the men built the pyramids 4000 years ago? It is arrogant to say we are smarter now. We're not. We're still sinners in need of God. Same as ever

    Our 'path out of bondage' is not science nor our own 'inquisitive nature'. It is Jesus. The hidden gem is not hidden. It is His blood, shed on the cross for us and there for all to see in the Gospels.

    Sigh. All your debates center on man. Mine center on Him. The difference is eternal.

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  29. Elizabeth,

    I don't know how I stumbled upon this website but there is only one thing I want you to understand. As much as you want the world to end, and the human race to be extinct, and as much as you hate science and reason; The earth and humans will be here for thousands of years to come. You need to take a look at what you believe in (the bible) so much and think for a second (I know its hard) Why would 'God' end the world he created? Also, if you go by the bible technically everything is a sin. Taking a crap is a sin, as is writing a blog on the internet. (sinner!)

    But in all seriousness the last thing I want to say is: If the world is coming to an end, why spend your last days writing on a blog? Shouldn't you be outside somewhere on a corner screaming that "our last days are upon us! repent now or feel the wraith of our mighty lord" Give me a break...

    P.S. The poster 'Matt' is one of the only people that made any sense in these comments. smdh...

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  30. Science is a fail!? lmfao. This entire blog is a fail. You seriously need to rethink your life, as you have probably not experienced many of the things in this world that will make you feel like you've acutally lived! Let me quote one of the great prophets of our time:

    "I'm really tryin to make it more than what it is, cause everybody dies, but not everybody lives..."

    Peace out.

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  31. Anonymous above. You misunderstand. I did not say that science itself is a fail. The things I said that will happen in the Tribulation will not be able to be explained by science. That is because they will be supernatural. Ergo, they are a science fail.

    You are making an assumption that I have not experienced many things. I do not know why you would assume this. It must be that you are laboring under a stereotype, bias, or misconception. But I have lived a wonderful life and have experienced many wonderful things. The best of them all was meeting Jesus. How my life experiences is germane though to the topic of comet Elenin escapes me.

    Your quote is a fail, however. Everybody lives. Everybody conceived has an eternal destiny. There are two destinies: heaven, and hell. The great thing is, you get to choose where you will spend eternity. You can pick heaven. Or you can deliberately reject Jesus and pick hell.

    You say 'peace out' but you have no peace. You will never have peace unless you come to terms with your sins and meet Jesus on HIS terms.

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  32. Anonymous of 4:19--

    I do not want the human race to become extinct. Neither does Jesus, more importantly. He said He would cut short the days of the Tribulation otherwise no flesh would survive. Otherwise all flesh would go extinct. He WANTS us to survive. No, the human race will never go extinct, you and I agree on this. Jesus made us and He went to great lengths to redeem us. He wants us all to live, in heaven with Him. You have that chance, too.

    We all sin. You too. We all think, do, or say wrong things. If you say that you have never done or said or thought one wrong thing then you are quite wrong. No one is good enough to get into heaven on their own, not me, not you. I satisfied my sin debt by submitting to Jesus and believing on Him and His work on the cross to pay it.

    You asked why God would end the word He created, it is because it is a fallen sinful world. Don't worry, He will create a new one. Just because you do not understand why God would do that does not mean He is not going to. But you can live there with us if you recognize your sins and ask forgiveness of them.

    I do not know why you say I do not think and insult me in this way. That is not thoughtful debating technique.

    I *am* spending my last days writing on a blog, which apparently reaches far and wide and has an impact that the Holy Spirit wants it to have. It reached you, didn't it? I am also spending my last days doing many other things.

    If you reconcile with Jesus about your sins, I will welcome you into the kingdom with joy and love. I hope that you do. The alternative is too awful to contemplate..

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  33. This is previous poster
    "Anonymous, May 18, 2011 4:19 PM"

    I apologize for mocking what you believe in so strongly (and for being way off topic), but you have to admit the concept of 'sins' is so farfetched in this day and age. What the whole concept of sins basically says is that if I do, think, or say something wrong, I am doomed unless I repent and reconcile with Jesus. This creates a thought process that most people would view as a way of doing whatever they please. "As long as I reconcile with Jesus, I can do anything." This is one reason so many people currently incarcerated are religious. Are you telling me that a criminal/murderer will make it to heaven if he is sorry for what he did and repents to the lord. This alone shoots done your entire religion, I am sorry to say.


    "You have that chance, too."
    The way you speak of heaven is like I am entering some contest. This is no perfect world we live in, far from it, but religion has CAUSED nothing but problems. Sure it brings people together with joy and prayer, but just look at all the war that goes on in the world because people differ in their religious views. How can you tell me your religion is the best and if I am not christian I am hellbound. That is essentially what you are saying. I do in fact have some faith, I DO believe in something, maybe you can call that god, or some higher power. But I refuse to belong to some mindless cult that forces me to think a certain way. I think for myself and do not base my opinions on an ancient book (written by humans, not Jesus) but rather on the experiences in my life that have made me the person I am. I'd like to think I'm a good decent human being who cares about others, so does being agnostic make me a bad person?

    The last thing I want to say is I do believe I stumbled upon this website for a reason. There is a higher power at work here. I encourage you to think on your own, use logic and continue being a decent person in society.

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  34. Hello Anonymous,

    Thank you so much for your apology. I appreciate it.

    No, I do not "have to admit the concept of 'sins' is so farfetched in this day and age."
    When did the concept that we are accountable for thinking, saying, or doing wrong things become passe? In 1968? 1903? 1845?. No, we are sinners and God is holy. He sent Jesus to pay the debt owed to God for our sins, and all we need to do is ask Him to forgive them.

    I know that it seems like it's a weird doctrine, accept the get out of jail free card and then sin bunches. But it doesn't work like that. When a sincere person repents (asks for forgiveness and turns from rebelliousness against a Holy God) then He sends the Holy Spirit to live IN us to help us resist sin. After that, you don't WANT to sin, and the more you apply yourself to obeying Him, the less you sin. Of course, we all still do, but when we are translated into our resurrected bodies after rapture we will not have a sin nature anymore. What a relief.

    I understand that it all sounds weird. I thought so too, right up until the time I repented and then it all made sense. BTW, I repented after living 43 years, never having gone to church, and never having owned a bible. The Lord put a conscience into me and two eyes in my head. "since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse." Romans 1:20. You have a mind, conscience, heart, and brain. Deep down you know you sin and it stands to logical reason that we don't earn heaven on our own. How my repentance was formulated unthinkingly by a mindless cult isn't logical in my case because it happened before I ever went to church. Again with the stereotypes.

    "What the whole concept of sins basically says is that if I do, think, or say something wrong, I am doomed unless I repent and reconcile with Jesus." Yes, exactly. You are starting to get it. Now what are you going to do about it?

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  35. Elizabeth, thank you for thoughtfully, contending for the faith, and doing so without malice.
    Some speak evil of what they know not, but what they know naturally.
    On some, having compassion, making a difference. And others, save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

    Keep yourself in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, unto eternal life.

    Looking for, and hasting unto the coming of the day of God...(Feast of Trumpets, 2011?)

    that there be a crown of righteousness laid up for you, and all them that love his appearing.

    Surely He comes quickly. Amen. Even so, come Lord Jesus.

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  36. I guess nobody here has heard. The Bible is a work of fiction, it is not the word of God. Not even close. Pope politicians have re-written and edited it to facilitate their own purposes so much over time, and there have been so many translations and re-translations that there is nothing pure left, assuming there was ever anything pure to begin with.

    For what it's worth, all of the Books (major religions) have been corrupted over and over again. All written, edited and re-written by the hand of mortal man for a very mortal purpose - control. Religion is a creation of man, not a creation of God. Quoting from any of these Books is therefore as reckless as quoting from a novel.

    God, and these Books, have nothing at all to do with each other.

    If you want to worship God, do so from your heart, not a manual. God will only speak to you through your heart, not through some "interpreter". Once you introduce a human interpreter, you kick open the door to corruption.

    Imagine for a minute, a world where everyone worships God. Period. No rules attached. So peaceful, it'd be boring.

    I've read posts here from what sound like very intelligent people, capable of doing un-biased research. I suggest you do some real hard fact finding, and trace your book to it's origin(s), for your own peace of mind.

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  37. The heart? Naw. "The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?" Jeremiah 17:9. "Listen to your heart" at your own risk. With Jesus, there is no risk.

    I worship Jesus through His Word, direct from His lips to our ears. The whole point of Jesus coming to earth and doing the things He did and then having them written down is so that there would be no interpreter. The Holy Spirit dispenses understanding of the Word, direct from heaven. No better deal anywhere.

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  38. Elizabeth,

    You are delusional. You cannot possibly have heard anything from the lips of Jesus. Nor could you have ever read anything written by Him. You continue to quote from your manual, which was written by man, not God, and is therefore meaningless. Of course it tells you not to listen to your heart. It's designed to close your heart and your mind and hand over control, as you have done.

    I've done all I can to help you. If you have any mind left at all, use it and find out the truth.

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  39. Yes, though I still have free will, I have voluntarily submitted to Jesus. It is a good place to be. You have submitted control as well, to satan. You are in bondage to your sins. Please think about these truths. You are not free, you are a slave to sin and a subject of satan. At least *my* lord is kind.

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  40. "It's designed to close your heart and your mind and hand over control, as you have done."

    This is the most sense I have read on this entire blog. This statement is the epitome of the bible. The church is a business just like a college or a hydro company. They are out for your money and don't care about you. Take for example the collection plate. Everyone empties their pockets to the church and the rich get richer. Why not donate your money to something that will actually make a difference like a charity or an orphanage.

    How can you say that listening to your heart is wrong? Instead of coming up with an actual reason for saying that, you continue to quote from that man made book.

    Sumbitted to Satan? Get real, we are not satanistic, nor do we think through this so called "satan". We use logic and reason and listen to our hearts as you and the rest of the world should.


    We more free than you can even imagine.

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  41. Elizabeth,

    It is clear that you have been brainwashed, likely from a very young age. Sad. Even sadder is that it's become a growth industry...

    Can't you see that your fundamentalism is at the root of all evil in the world?

    You accuse me of having submitted to satan. By doing so, you have only announced the method of control used on you by your string pullers. Is that what they've been telling you Elizabeth, that by using your own mind you must be submitting to satan? Did they show you how it says that in the manual?

    Elizabeth, I cannot possibly have submitted to satan because I don't believe in satan. I don't talk to satan, and I don't get any messages from satan. Satan is a control tactic used on you, not a reality.

    I'm happy for you that you've found a mindless bliss, but I feel sorry for you as well.

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  42. From a young age? hmmm. My dad was a rabid atheist and brainwashed me all about Darwin. If he could exhume Darwin and dip him in gold, he would. I never went to church and our family never mentioned Jesus, nor owned a bible. Sorry to puncture your stereotype. I came to Jesus at age 43 STILL never having gone to church, but having traveled thru the world, and noticing its complexity and beauty, and seeing clearly that it could not have come from nothing by chance. "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." (Romans 1:20) I also began to understand about sin, that my deeds were not good enough to get me into heaven.

    I know you don't believe in satan. That doesn't matter,. He believes in you. Further, he has you in his back pocket.

    I don't know why people say that faith is mindless...I didn't have a lobotomy when I accepted Jesus...but in any case, yes I have bliss. I hope you find the same, in Jesus, where the only bliss that exists is

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  43. The way I see it, the interpretation of the bible is always a problem. Christians interpret it, atheists interpret it. There are many disagreements as to its real import. No christian ministers or atheist believers have been foretold to come. No bible groups turned religious sect have been given authority.

    Your best option is to find whoever it may be that is in authority, in other words, foretold to come as Jesus was by name, date, address and mission. Find the authority sent by God to interpret the bible for you. It's been around 2000 years since Jesus was here, 1300 + years since Muhammad, who sang the praises of Moses, Jesus and the Prophets, was here. Who is the Messenger for this time? Will God lead you to that One or leave you to embrace something that can't help you?

    Do you crave the truth no matter what it may turn out to be or are you prejudiced? Truth doesn't show itself all at once. It comes in degrees. People looking up into the night sky before Galileo swore the earth was the center of the universe. Galileo was threatened with death for his observations but over time it was discovered that he was correct in pointing out that the earth circumnavigated the sun.

    Likewise the Creator sends Messengers who are like the sun, giving life to all who receive them. They are not the sun nor does God become human. The Messengers brought one basic message and gave also counsel appropriate for the exigencies of the times they were living in. Time to get current and find the Messenger for your day. Evolve.

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  44. Clyde, non-believers cannot understand the bible because their minds have been blinded by satan. Only people who have the Holy Spirit in them can understand it. (2 Corinthians 4:4). Therefore it is folly to follow and atheists's interpretation. Rely on the Holy Spirit for understanding (Proverbs 3:5)

    I crave the truth, that is why I read the bible. It is the only truth. I sought 'truth' in Buddha, pagan religions, new age, and in myself. Truth is no where in those places. I finally found it in Jesus and His Word. I evolved from unbelieving sinner to saved saint thanks to the blood of Jesus and the indwelling Holy Spirit who gives light and understanding to the Creator's personality and ways. I hope you evolve in that way too.

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  45. just facts - check for yourself...

    elenin calculation from NASA:

    http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=1#cad

    planetary alignments can be calculated with:

    SimSolar 2.0

    http://www.pwr-tools.com/simsolar/index.htm

    earth quake database:

    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/epic/

    real pictures from elenin:

    http://gustavomuler.fotografiaastronomica.com/www/images/cometas/C1010X1/


    Strange behaviour of C/2010 X1 (Elenin) discussion:

    http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/comets-ml/message/17396

    Cornell University Dr. Mensur Omerbashich paper, "Astronomical alignments as the cause of M6+ seismicity."

    You can view it here: 

    http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.2036.pdf

    dates to watch for:

    calculated planetary alignments and alignments with elenin:

    6 15 2011  (moon earth sun mercury)

    8 15 2011  (neptune moon earth mercury sun venus)

    9 27 2011  (uranus earth moon elenin (0.38AU) sun mercury venus saturn) +
                   (neptune earth mars)

    11 11 2011  (elenin (0.42AU) moon earth mercury venus saturn) +
                     (uranus earth mars)

    12 12 2012  (jupiter earth moon mercury venus)

    12 21 2012  (elenin (5.2AU) earth sun) + (jupiter moon earth)

    conclusion: 

    another 9+ earthquake in 2011 is highly possible.

    it could even be stronger than the 9.5 Valdivia earthquake or Great Chilean earthquake 22 May 1960, which is to date the most powerful earthquake ever recorded on Earth. A 9+ earthquake in the central USA would be just what we need now...

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  46. All I ever hear where I live is conspericy theories. I mean tahts all I hear about. I admit its starting to scare the heck outta me now. Partly because of this PTSD Im already going through and other things. But thats all I hear about and its not fun anymore. Yes its scaring me that this comet will kill us or our leaders are plotting against us or HAARP and all the other things. I really dont want to hear what they say here at home anymore. I keep reading online about these aresnt really going to happen and they conspericy sites and people are hyping everything up. Besides bible reading (Which is a great tool) what do you think>

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  47. Hi Brad,

    Well, let's start from what we know. That's what I do. Most conspiracies have a grain of truth in them, but many are just outlandish scare tactics. The question is, how much time do you want to spend sorting out the germ of truth from the outlandish lie? Time is valuable, and besides, some lies you can never get to the bottom of and all you do is end up chasing your tail.

    Let's go to the bible, the only source of absolute truth. We know that in the Tribulation after the church is taken up to heaven, that the antichrist will:

    --oppress the world
    --kill non-believers
    --make the WWII holocaust look like a picnic
    --control the economy

    We know that the weather and natural systems like the times, seasons, and solar system will be acting increasingly crazy, until they don't work at all anymore.

    We know that billions will die within a short time. We know that war will overtake the world

    Whether some want to believe all this is perpetrated by a secret cabal of men (Illuminati) or by alien overlords (Greys/Reptilians/Aliens), for example, the grain of truth is that the conspiracy theorists are partially right. The secret cabal of men will turn out to be the antichrist, the False Prophet, and the kings who side with him. The Aliens will turn out to be the satan and his fallen angels who know their time is short.

    The point is, I don't worry about the process of how the bible will come true, I just know that it will. Men who do not believe the bible have to make *something* up to explain the craziness! I also know that I won't be here, because in His grace Jesus saved me and I will be taken to heaven with all true believers to receive crowns, have a banquet and live in peace with my Savior. That is the biggest "conspiracy" of all that people like to scoff at, but it is the total truth!

    Because I believe I don't worry about conspiracies. Because I believe I have peace in my soul. Because I believe, I know Jesus will rescue me from wrath. This time period is a time when all men, including you, have to separate the wheat from the chaff, and settle down to brass tacks and decide what, and who, you are going to believe. Do you believe you are a sinner saved by Jesus' blood through His work on the cross? That is where to start.

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  48. Just wanted to add my bit to the Elenin name controversy.
    Position each letter of both names LEONID and ELENIN with their corresponding number order in the Alphabet (E=5, L=12, etc…) then add up the numbers for each name.
    Coincidentally, both add up to 59…
    Wikipedia says:
    Fifty-nine is:
    The number corresponding to the last minute in a given hour, and the last second in a given minute.
    CODE FOR “THE END”…?
    KENPETER.

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  49. Using the bible for anything other than wiping your rear is insane. That heap of fascist, racist, sexist and murder condoning rubbish is exactly why we can't make sense of anything anymore. I would sooner use an issue of Hustler as a moral barometer than that violence ridden, propagandist mulch.
    Forget the bible, forget your god...there's something else coming and it isn't 'divine'!

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  50. Wiki liberal? Yes, and reality has that liberal bias so we
    better avoid it (at all cost) and make up our own.

    What I just said kinda goes to the heart of things that are going on
    all around us. People have the entire www at their
    fingertips which is supposed to be a good thing.
    Actually it is looked upon with fear by crooks and despots
    in the Middle East, China, in the undeveloped world
    as well as many right here in the undeveloped parts of the
    US where there are ghetto mentalities who would like nothing
    better than to bring the whole world down in some kind of
    eschatological frenzy rather than let let the www infect their
    "truth".

    I know, what I just said is backward and ah am
    living in the ghetto of ma ego and blah blah blah.
    That's true and so are you.-)

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  51. Why don't I believe in many of the comments that talk about
    being fearful about all the conspiracies and the comets and
    the seismic events inside their heads, ie volcanoes, 10.0
    earthquakes. I have the feeling taking about the divine
    kinda gives off the impression that we are making HIM
    into our image instead of the other way around. HE'S
    becoming more and more human every day and I think
    it's time to stop that stuff...only kidding. Keep right on doing it.-)

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  52. Talking about what God is doing in the world doesn't make Him into our image, it reminds us of Who He is. Your particular response to that...is telling.

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  53. Jerry, your comment about 'ghetto mentalities' and wiki liberalism isn't clear. If you intended to be cutesy and coy, you have achieved it. If you intended to be clear and contribute something, you missed the mark.

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  54. I'm sorry but the Bible is more like guidelines to live your life. Just like any other book of religion. They are tales passed down. Believe it or not, sometimes thing can get a little embellished when a something isn't actually written down right when it happens, like the bible has been proven to be a comprehensive view from many different people. Lots of the metaphors in the Bible are very similar to others from different cultures around the world. I'm sorry but as long as I am good to people and know in my heart that I am a good person, that's what makes me Christian. Just going to church doesn't make me a Christian, just like getting in front of a camera doesn't make me an actor.

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  55. Anonymous if that is what you believe, then I'M sorry. Sorry for you and the state of eternity in which you will find yourself.

    Either you believe the bible is the Holy Spirit inspired Word of God, revealing Himself to us, or you do not. There is no picking and choosing which 'guideline' you will follow and which you will chuck.

    It looks like you don't believe the bible is the world of God. On one hand, you're right- things will get embellished if not written down right away, details will become blurry. But that is when MAN writes things. The Holy Spirit breathed every word and He doesn't forget anything. Nor does He embellish.

    So if you don't believe the bible is trustworthy then you don't believe what it says: that you (and I) are sinners in need of a savior. And you proved that you don't believe it by saying that your good deeds will get you into heaven. You're a "good person."

    No you're not. No one is good, not one. All are as filthy rags. (Romans 3:10; Isaiah 64:6). All those good deeds you will recount to Him on judgment day will be #fail. It will go like this:
    "Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'" And He will say "get away from me you evildoer." (Matthew 7:22-23).

    And your heart? It is deceitful above all things, desperately sick, who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9)

    You are a Christian if you have repented of your sins and believe that Jesus is Lord. You are not a Christian if you judge for yourself that you are good enough in your heart. Only Jesus judges that, and the standard is repentance and submission to Him.

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  56. Wow, some of those comments... Yeesh.

    Anyway... I came here to this post only to ask if there have been any developments in regards to this comet?

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  57. I've been under conviction for a week or so to follow up. I've been delaying but your query spurred me on again. This post has, hands down, gotten the most views of any since the Ghost horse post (22,558 views vs, 17,435 for the Comet Elenin). There obviously is a lot of interest...so Ill follow up tomorrow.

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  58. Wonderful! I don't know what the Ghost horse post is, so I guess I'll be adding to the numbers there when I go look for it!

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  59. The bible has been edited and re-edited so many times by men over the years...basically it cant be the word from God anymore...and not just that, the bible describes prophets of the old in a bad manner (noah a drunkered? and david commiting adultery??)..just a question, if God was to choose men or women to send His message to mankind, wouldnt He choose the most righteous and best of all mankind...but here, the bible states that noah was a drunkard (how can he deliver the message of God if he gets drunk all the time?)...I have read your article and to be honest it is interesting, but the bible cannot be used for credability because it has been altered through the years...Most Priests and people who studied the bible have seeked other religions...search youtube, u'll find many stories of how priests and bible students became muslim...The Quran has never been altered by man, its still the same as it was 1400 years ago...and I believe it is the true word of God...it describes all the prophets sent down to mankind to deliver the message of belief (Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad peace be upon them all), belief in the One God, who created all things. Nothing compares to God because He is unique in all aspects...In regards to Elenin, only God knows what will happen, until then pray, and live your life normally knowing that God is all around us..remember God and he will remember you. Peace

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  60. The bible has been edited and re-edited hundreds of times, but the Koran hasn't? Interesting
    theory...

    God chose people, with all their flaws and foibles, to do His work. Because we are all sinful, we all fail. David repented sincerely and God forgave him. That is the kind of God we have.

    That the bible includes all the foibles and flaws and mistakes of the sinful and the righteous is a testament to its truth. If someone "edited and re-edited it" hundreds of times, don't you think ONE of those times they would have left out the people acting in bad manner?

    Noah: God said he was righteous and His assessment is good enough for me, Noah preached unto the people for 100 years, foretelling judgment and preaching repentance. Not a single convert did he gain...but he kept doing it, because Noah was obedient. In the face of 100% saturation of evil all around him, Noah maintained his Godly faith. Now, that's something pretty good. I doubt you or I could do that.

    He did drink once (not "all the time") after the flood, wouldn't you if you went thru a judgment that killed ALL your neighbors and All your friends and then had to recall those memories while on a boat for over a year, not knowing what was happening outside? Yes, Noah was a righteous man. It's God's opinion and that is god enough for me. I wish it was good enough for you..

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  61. Is its true that slowly the end time is coming near and near,but besides that your information,are the best which I have found till date.

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  62. When the end comes, I doubt any of you will act like Jesus.

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  63. When the end comes, we, who love Him, will BE with Jesus. I would advise you to be among our number. Turn to Him, before it is too late, friend.

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  64. @Matt..I guess the picture of Jesus at the top wasn't familiar to you, otherwise you'd understand that this page leans toward the Truth the Bible presents, and objectively refutes garbage distributed by the "educated" media.

    I believe that you wanted to jump on the opportunity to argue your point of view, which is skewed and misguided to say the least. I do however feel there is hope for you, because you are seriously looking for answers, otherwise you wouldn't have taken the time to leave a comment. I think you and I both know, you won't find the answers you're looking for in college.

    I must disagree with your statement that you "know" the Bible and Revelation. I can say with 100% proof, that you do NOT know the Bible, including Revelation.

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  65. @Anonymous who stated: "You seriously need to rethink your life, as you have probably not experienced many of the things in this world that will make you feel like you've acutally lived! Let me quote one of the great prophets of our time:

    "I'm really tryin to make it more than what it is, cause everybody dies, but not everybody lives..."


    It's eternal life that's worth living for, and if you are given eternal life..then you can say you've actually lived.

    I only pray that your eyes will open soon, so that maybe you will one day truly live!

    And now, allow me to quote from a TRUE great prophet who said:

    " I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." ~ Yeshua (John 14:6)

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  66. This is some of the most inane garbage I have ever read in my life. You should be ashamed of yourself for being naive enough to believe in this non-sense and, furthermore, for perpetuating this tripe.

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  67. Hi Anonymous,

    To which tripe are you referring? Elenin is not coming? NASA is not aggravated? It's not hard to find a truthful, balanced media report today? Please define tripe...thanks

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  68. I have a few questions comments or concerns:
    Elizabeth, you did not respond to Luke, the second comment on this page, are his points valid?
    If the Holy Bible is the only truth,"Poor' Antonio IS poor: poor in spirit. Only the holy bible is true" which Holy Bible do I follow? I have both the Christian and Catholic Holy Bible and either one seems to be missing books or the other has added them. i am confused as revelation 22:18,19 states(and i paraphrase) dont add or remove from the bible.
    Also while reading the comments I noticed that Antonio said reptilians=demons, and your response to him is "So in a final re-phrasing, where does it say in the bible that reptilians are demons?" then you latter go on to say "'reptilians' are in fact fallen angels (demons)."
    please help me to understand.

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  69. Riotus,

    To answer your question about Luke's comment: No, his points are not valid. He said:

    "I wonder, though, why you would remark that wikipedia is biased, but then say an American conservative Christian perspective is more accurate."

    Because Wikipedia is man-made, and altered (edited) at whim depending on a personal agenda. If a Christian is speaking through a biblical perspective that is ALWAYS more accurate.

    Luke said-
    "Not all Christians agree about their religion. Not all Conservatives agree, and neither do Americans. Put these three together to forge a specific perspective, and you lose objectivity, because you are filtering through not one, but three subjective belief systems to suit a particular agenda."

    Not valid. I am not looking thru a 'scientific perspective' but a biblical one. I am not looking through clumped and grouped Christian perspectives, but a biblical one. The biblical always trumps the scientific. With Luke, it seemed in his comment the scientific trumps the biblical. That is why that part of the comment is not valid.

    "Not to say you shouldn't read it, but to say it is above bias is in itself pretty biased. I'm sure there are plenty of Israeli Jews, Japanese Buddhists, British atheists, etc who would say they have the correct unbiased perspective as well."

    Correct to say this but again, not valid. No other perspective except biblical is a valid perspective. Buddhist, atheist etc perspectives are not from God and therefore not legitimate. They can say they hold a correct view all they want, but they are wrong. Only God's perspective is right.

    I hope this addressing of Luke's comment relaxes your concerns.

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  70. Riotus, You asked which bible? You correctly note that the Catholic bible has added books. That is why the Catholic bible is in error and the Catholic religion is false. The religion has combined man-made tradition with holy revelation and that makes it a false religion. Some of the false doctrines the Catholics hold are purgatory, indulgences, eternal virginity of Mary, deification of Mary, confession to priests, among many others. Which bible? It should have 66 books, and the NASB, NKJV are god translations. The LDS bible is also false, stay away from it. It was given to Joseph Smith by an angel even though the bible says not to accept any other Gospel even if an angel brings it. (Galatians 1:8). I'd say that the first step for you should not be sorting out biblical translations but strip to the bare bones fo the Gospel of Jesus Christ: You are a sinner. (We all are). That means you say, think, and do things that displease God. This disqualifies you from entering heaven upon your death. If you want to reconcile your sins and enter heaven to be with Jesus, then sincerely repent. This means asking Him to forgive your sins. These sins are crimes against Him, and as Righteous Judge, He is coming soon to deliver sentencing and punishment on all the criminals (sinners.) If you want to avoid this and are sorry for the wrong things you have done, repent. He paid the price ahead of time for your sentence by dying on the cross and shedding blood for you. Your sentence is paid. There is a pardon with your name on it. All you have to do it claim it. After you repent and the Lord forgives you, He sends the Holy Spirit to dwell inside you and grow you in righteousness. It is THEN and only then that you will understand the things in the bible. The bible says, "The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God (2 Corinthians 4:4). So effectually, you have to take a step of faith toward Jesus first, *then* all is revealed. At any time you can be saved by a simple moment repentance! He is truly wonderful. Please take that step... :)

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  71. why is it that this is based on the bible? Not everything that's fact is in the bible. The bible (If im correct) is made to help people through-out there lives, not look for help in dooms-day situations. I was listening to this man who has a PHD in geology. he said "the bible is the number one top selling fiction book in the history of man kind." I cant help but to agree with him. That book was baised entirely on faith and i believe its a book someone wrote to help others with there hard ships. I could believe in "Eragon" and say "dragons are the salvation to all of us" but I DON'T. this matter has nothing to do with faith. and if it did, i believe we would know about it. If im correct, arnt we still waiting for jesus's second comming? so how can the world end until he does so? so many religous leaders are comming up with stuff that dont make any sence. anyways, thought I would throw my opinion into the mix

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  72. "I am PAGAN and I'm PROUD. I am PAGAN, gonna shout it lOUD i am PAGAN, want the world to know, that I follow the Goddess 'cause she rocks my soul!!!!!!!"

    PAGAN, does NOT equal DEMONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ALL YOUR ANCESTORS were PAGAN!!!!! YOu mean to tell me, all our ancestors went to Hell beause they had demonic practices? I THINK NOT


    "If you haven't any love, than tolerance will do. If you haven't any tolerance, then GODDESS BLESS YOU!!!!!!!!"

    Blessings to all, even those who wish me ill and think I am evil because of my religion.

    ~Kelly

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  73. Kelly,

    You don't have to shout, Jesus already knows you are His enemy. The bible says hat anyone who has not asked Him to forgive their sins against Him is His enemy. Satan has blinded the minds of those on this world (2 Corinthians 4:4). When a person accepts Christ their eyes are opened. "I was blind, but now I see."

    It isn't a matter of which religion you pick. It is a question of thinking that despite having sinned, we believe we are still good enough to go to heaven after we die, and be with a perfectly Holy God.

    But we all sin. That means we think, say, or do things that displease God. Even one sin disqualifies us from entering heaven to be with Him, so therefore we were all doomed. Doomed that is, until Jesus died on the cross for our sins. God's judgment was poured out upon Jesus insread of us, and all we need to do now is pick up that 'get out of ail free' card, and ask Him sincerely to forgive our sins. He will pardon us and we and go to heaven when we die. I'm not saying that it is easy, admitting our sins is hard and living for Christ is hard because it goes against our nature. You think your live is good because you're going along with your nature, which is to live sinfully. But confession IS the first step.

    Yes, anyone who did not reconcile their sins with God through faith in a coming Messiah (pre-cross) or reconcile their sins with God by faith in the Messiah that had come (post-cross) then they went to hell. You will too unless you recognize you're a sinner and ask Jesus to please forgive you. That is currently hard for you to do since satan has blinded your mind. That is why it takes great faith to admit our failings, choose to come under the will of a loving and forgiving Jesus, and leave satan- your controller and your accuser- behind

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  74. I do agree with all of your views Elizabeth. But, how is it that you are forgiven? And yes, the catholic church did change many things. Such as abolishing the Passover through the council of nicea as well as the sabbath day, feast of unleavened bread, feast of weeks (Pentecost), feast of trumpets, day of atonement, and feast of tabernacles.

    Ex. 12. 10
    Mt. 26. 26

    This Passover is for forgiveness.

    Rom. 6. 23

    The ONLY way to be forgiven is to partake in the Passover which was abolished in 325 a.d.

    Then scripture said Christ needs to appear a second time to bring salvation. The only way to receive salvation? Passover. Therefore the only way to have eternal life, is through the Passover.


    Correct me if i am wrong. Again, Mt.7:21

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  75. Anonymous, you said, "Then scripture said Christ needs to appear a second time to bring salvation. The only way to receive salvation? Passover. Therefore the only way to have eternal life, is through the Passover. "

    What scriptures say this? Thanks.

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  76. Heb. 9.28

    "So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him."

    Appear. How dd Christ appear 2000 years ago? How did Christ bring salvation 2000 years ago?

    In the flesh, not much people believed he was the christ. But when he appeared in the flesh he said, "Jesus said to them, 'I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, an I will raise him up at the last day.'"

    Mt. 26.17,26-27.

    Unless you eat this flesh and blood through the Passover, you have no life. No matter if you repent. The only true way to be forgiven is to partake in this Passover.

    But like I said, the Passover was abolishe in 325 a.d. by the roman catholic church. So there was no way for anyone to eat of this Passover for a very long time. Who can receive life? Nobody.

    But, Christ must appear a 2nd time. Not to bear sin. (being crucified) but to bring salvation. (eternal life, through the Passover) and then after those who accept it repent, the end will come.


    Remember, Rev. 22.18

    "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this bookof prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of lifeand in the holy city, which are described in this book."

    You may say because of Jesus coming the Passover was needed no more. But, if that were the case Jesus would not have said to take and eat or that he eagerly desired to eat it with us.

    Everything jesus did was as an example for us, john 13.15

    Mt 5:18

    Passover is the way the Israelites escaped the plagues, Passover is the way that we will escape the last plagues and receive eternal life as well as the forgiveness of sins.

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  77. Anonymous, you are reading more into the process of salvation than there is. Here is why: It is man's inclination to reject the simplicity and beauty of salvation on HIS grace alone. Our works, including keeping rituals such as Passover, have NOTHING to do with it.

    But man is always seeking a loophole that inserts himself into the process of salvation, which is HIS work, not ours. Passover is a Jewish celebration that was a model of future sacrifice of JESUS as the Lamb. Now that Jesus is come and the Lamb was sacrificed once for all, we are released from rituals to have a pure and simplified relationship with Him.
    Colossians 2:16-17 -- "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."

    All our sins are forgiven when we confess them to Jesus. Colossians 2:13-14, "When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross."

    Salvation is by faith alone. "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." Ephesians 2:8-9.

    Believing in Jesus is the only requirement for salvation. Acts 16:30–31--"Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

    You must be born again to be saved, and to be born again "so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life" John 3:14b (Jesus and Nicodemus).

    Faith in Jesus as the sacrificed Lamb for our sins, not man's purity in keeping a ritualistic celebration, is the way to salvation.

    Sorry to say, you are preaching a false gospel, but equally, now that you know the real Gospel and how beautiful it is to be saved, for it is through His grace alone, and not our keeping of a ritual. He is magnificent!

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  78. Again, unless you eat the flesh and drink his blood you have no life. To ignore this spoken by Jesus/God himself you cannot say you believe the bible. John 6:53.

    John 6:60
    "on hearing it, many of his disciples said, "this is a hard teaching who can accept it?"
    Many later deserted Jesus. Because they could not accept the Passover feast.

    I have said a couple times now Christ himself said we should follow his example. The apostles followed this exampl so I leave you with one more verse.

    1 Cor. 5:7-8

    "get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb has bee sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth."

    Believe the words our God has given us. This is truth. God bless you.

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  79. The bible does not say that the disciples deserted him *because* they could not accept the Passover feast. They were Jews, they had celebrated the Passover feast all their lives already. They were quite familiar with it.

    Again, you read more into the verses than is there, preferring to rely on salvation by your own strength through ritual keeping rather than by His grace.

    If as you say that you are relying on John 6:53 literally for salvation, then you believe that YOU must eat the flesh of Jesus and drink His blood. "He did not mean that this should be understood literally, for it was never done, and it is absurd to suppose that it was intended to be so understood. Nothing can possibly be more absurd than to suppose that when he instituted the Supper, and gave the bread and wine to his disciples, they literally ate his flesh and drank his blood. Who can believe this? There he stood, a living man - his body yet alive, his blood flowing in his veins; and how can it be believed that this body was eaten and this blood drunk?"

    Ergo, if YOU do not "eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you" then YOU are not saved either and His reason for coming the first time would have been rendered frivolous and moot. Which is not so, because He came to sacrifice Himself for our sins, that we may live.

    read this commentary for more on what He meant.
    http://biblecommenter.com/john/6-53.htm

    This is the end of our discussion. You are preaching a false gospel and I will tolerate no further debate that no one is saved, as you propose. I pray these words of truth penetrate your mind and heart and you would be saved by His grace.

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  80. To all who are posting as "Anonymous" what you believe is not true and is a lie. I pray that god opens your eyes as he did for Saul who God later had his named changed to Paul. The bible is the truth, the way, and the light; he who follows will never die. I did not fully believe the bible until I studied it and I learned that most of the bible stories, people, places and prophecys are fulfilled can be proved beyond reasonable doubt through archeological digs throughout Isreal and it is the only word of god that can fully proven. Unlike the book's of muslims, mormans, and jehovahs witnesses can not be proven they do not have prophecy that can be backed up through archeology. Prophecy is the road map to the truth that proves that everything in the bible it the devinely inspired by GOD and is the truth. God is not a liar of which the bible has proven time and time again. God says, "who ever seeks will find! I pray that he will reveal himself to all in a radical way and that you soul shall be redeemed. God said that in the end day's that there would be a very evil and powerful man who would deceive the world and many souls would be lost because they believed that this person was of God, when infact, this person is Satan. The only way to be sure is to seek his word through the holy spirit. We are living in the end times and if you care to find out, you can google "end time current event's and biblical prophecy" and this will reveal to you that all biblical prophecy aligns with the word of God. He loved the world so much he wants all to be saved, so, he sent his only begotten son so that we may have life, an adundant life. Wow, how powerful is that he want's "ALL TO BE SAVED"! We were born into sin and we will alway's be sinner's, the only way to ever be sure that we are not doomed to eternal damination is to pray to our heavenly father and repent of our sin's everyday, to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, the holy spirit is our spiritual helper sent by God and to be bapitized through water and to turn from our sinful way's.

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  81. Related to Comet Elenin, and even though I think it's (technically) unrelated, this news story also reminds me of that whole "Great Invocation" thing put on by Lucis Trust:

    http://news.yahoo.com/world-peacemakers-call-3-day-moratorium-news-9-070955680.html

    "World Peacemakers call for 3-day news moratorium in order to focus global meditation energies and Comet Elenin's energies on peace."

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  82. A great delusion sent and many would be decieved. Even if an angel of light comes with another gospel... do not buy it. Satans story never changes.... from the garden ... "follow me, and you will be like a god"..... or new age theory.... we can tap into our inner "IAM".... It was predicted in Bible that this would happen... and that it would INCREASE after Israel was back in her land. Ever since 1948,,, there has been huge increase of this kind of activity

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  83. Watch the heavens, watch the sky, watch as the days go passing by. "It" will come this I know because a watcher told me so. Now I know what I must do for I have become a watcher too. When you know the end is near, watch and wait for "it" to appear. The watchers know things not of this world. They have been watching man since they were put on this earth. Watch "it's" coming, will be here soon. Now you've been told the watchers are here, watch and wait because this all you can do unless you become a watcher to. 

    Remember the watchers are watching you!!!

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  84. All Christians know things not of this world, because all believers have the mind of Christ. (1 Cor 2:16). In addition, we know things not of this world because we read His Word, which is not of this world but is of His.

    If by Watchers you are referring to the angels mentioned in Daniel 4:17 then that is another matter. They, and all angels as a matter of fact, watch us, as does the Spirit, God, and Jesus. But the believers who watch for His soon coming and the angelic watchers are not the same. Nor do earthly believers have any special office, knowledge or wisdom apart from what the Holy Spirit gives us as we study His word. I hope that is not what you are inferring...

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