Saturday, December 17, 2011

Pope Benedict's health failing, St. Malachy's prophecy comes up again

An interesting article, please click on the headline for more

Pope heads into busy Christmas season tired, weak
"Pope Benedict XVI seems worn out. People who have spent time with him recently say they found him weaker than they'd ever seen him, seemingly too tired to engage with what they were saying. He no longer meets individually with visiting bishops. A few weeks ago he started using a moving platform to spare him the long walk down St. Peter's Basilica. Benedict turns 85 in the new year, so a slowdown is only natural. Expected. And given his age and continued rigorous work schedule, it's remarkable he does as much as he does and is in such good health overall: Just this past week he confirmed he would travel to Mexico and Cuba next spring. But a decline has been noted as Benedict prepares for next weekend's grueling Christmas celebrations, which kick off two weeks of intense public appearances. And that raises questions about the future of the papacy given that Benedict himself has said popes should resign if they can't do the job."

Now, this brings up an interesting issue. I am NOT a fan of extra-biblical prophecies. I mean, just look at the hysteria of the Mayan 2012 world-ending prophecy. The bible is the only true standard for testing truth. But there is an interesting prophecy about the Pope that is explained in Jack Kelley's Q&A section of Grace Thru Faith website. Both Q&A's are highlighted with a clickable link.

"Only One More Pope?"
Q. The Bible doesn’t say anything about popes so where do we get the idea that this pope is the 2nd to the last one of the End Times?

A. It’s true that the Bible makes no mention of Popes. The view that the current pope is the next to last one comes from a remarkable extra-Biblical prophecy given by an Irish Catholic Bishop named St. Malachy in 1139 AD. He predicted that a total of 112 men would hold the office of Pope from then till the End of the Age and gave cryptic descriptions of each one that have all been reasonably accurate, lending credibility to the prophecy. The last pope, called Peter the Roman, “will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city (Rome) will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.” Pope Benedict is number 111, next to last on St. Malachy’s list, something that caught the public’s attention around the time the Pope was being selected."

"Verifying Prophecy"
Q. I believe in all the prophesies in the Bible. But what about those extra-biblical predictions like St. Malachy and such? I know in Joel 2:28, God said that there will be people who prophesize. So how do we (Christians) discern which revelation is from God and which isn’t? If I received a vision, how can I be sure that it is from God?

A. Deut. 18:21-22 answers your question. You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. Prophecies from the Lord always come true. Modern day prophecies also have to conform to God’s already revealed word, because He can’t change His mind or contradict Himself. The prophecies of St. Malachy concerning Papal succession are interesting and have historical support for their accuracy. For this reason they bear watching."

Watch, test all things, dispense with the false and hold fast to the good. And with high levels of skepticism and even with one eye shut, holding your nose, read the "The Prophecy of the Popes" by Saint Malachy, of which "The longest and final motto reads in the original Latin:
"In eſecutione extrema S.R.E. ſedebit. Petrus Romanus, qui paſcet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus tranſactis ciuitas ſepticollis diruetur, & Iudex tremẽdus iudicabit populum ſuum. Finis."

This is usually translated into English as:
"In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit [i.e., as bishop]. Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations: and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible judge will judge his people. The End."

It IS pretty interesting that a guy in some tiny Irish town a thousand years ago made a list of popes that ends at exactly a time when true believers see the biblical prophecies already coming together. Malachy could have listed 100 popes, or 150 popes, but he didn't. The list ends...now. That merits a 'hmmmm' from me.

Compelling, but don't build a doctrine out of it. The currently reported weakness of the Pope and the prospect of installing another one is always interesting because by far the Roman Catholic Church is one of  the largest false religion in the world, with roots that can be directly traced back to the first false religion, Babylon. For that reason alone, the Pope is worth watching, because it is highly likely the Catholic religion will have some role to play when true believers are raptured away. As head of that religion, the Pope will need to send assurances to the billion Catholics left behind. The Pope, whoever he is, will be prominent in the news and on the world stage. There are approximately 1.1 billion Catholics, and 1.5 billion Muslims so the number of false religion adherents left behind will undoubtedly inculcate and perpetuate the Lie. (2 Thess 2:11).

The news article continues about Pope Benedict:

"Fessio recalled a day in the 2010 edition that remains with him: "In the Saturday morning session, the pope looked older and weaker than I had ever seen him before. In fact I remarked to someone that it's the first time I've seen him look like the old man that he is. He was speaking in softer tones than even his normally soft speaking voice. His head was bowed. He was pale. He just looked frail." But then, after lunch and an apparent rest, Benedict returned for the afternoon session. "It was a complete transformation. He was lively, vigorous, attentive, and with his usual good humor," Fessio said. Clearly, at his age Benedict has good days and bad, even good half-days and bad."

As we all know, all people's days are numbered, and God knows the number of them. Psalm 39:4- "Show me, O LORD, my life's end and the number of my days; let me know how fleeting is my life."

20 comments:

  1. Edward, the prophecy of Malachy is a stumbling block because it is not found in the bible. The bible is the only authoritative truth.

    Are you saying Jesus resurrected you from the dead to be the prophesied Pope Peter??

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  2. I was surprised when Hal Lindsey talked about this prophecy on one of his previous shows. I know he gave a disclaimer before talking about it but then what was the point of even mentioning it? It could easily confuse some people about the validity of God's word and could add validity to the RCC for others.

    If it was not a revelation from God, it was demonically inspired...I'm not saying that they can tell the future and that the RCC and the kingdom of satan used whatever useless power and influence to make reality line up with these "prophecies." I've read most of them and those that aren't about the Pope's family's coat of arms seem to be reaching. The last prophecy is eerie though. The last line is interesting but I won't look into it beyond that.

    It is pretty compelling but big pieces just don't add up to being in line with The Word of God and that spells dastardly deception from the cunning serpent. I bet these prophecies will be another way to validate the RCC post rapture. They can bring it to light whenever it's convenient for them!

    Thanks for really shedding light on how deeply deceptive the RCC really is and also it's role in the end times. I was always confused about it and why it was seen as Christianity but never said anything because it's so loved and accepted by everyone...also sorry for this long comment LOL...

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  3. Debbie, I loved your comment. I think that was insightful to say it may be a way to validate the Catholic Church post-rapture. I had not thought of that.

    I know that God used the Witch of Endor to speak to Saul when King Saul sought information. He used un-believer Cyrus King of Persia in a mighty way. In Acts 16:16-19 a slave girl was making lots of money telling the future, and if she had been wrong so many times I suppose she would not have been so valuable to her master. And she was following Paul saying that Paul was proclaiming the people that Paul was from the Most High God and showing the way to be saved, so who knows why the demon spirit in her was saying the truth at that moment...he had his reasons I am sure.

    I'm sure there are other nonbelievers He has used that I can't think of right now that are unconventional or that He allowed the demons to use. He *could* give a prophecy to an unbeliever. He usually doesn't. I tend to believe Malachy was demonically inspired as so many of the visions and dreams and visitations to other medieval Catholics were. And the bible was codified by then so Malachy would know the phrases 'city of 7 hills' and the 'terrible judge' and the end time destruction. So would satan. But the timing...the demons don't know *that*.

    As for saying out loud that the Catholic church isn't Christian, yeah, I always get hate mail or spit on when I say that. And the angry spittle I mention? It happened at church two weeks ago from a fellow 'believer'. Notwithstanding the reaction we know we will get when we say Beth Moore is a counterfeit or Billy Graham is apostate or the Catholic Church isn't Christian, we must speak when we can point to the bible to show validity for these opinions. Proverbs 28:23, "He who rebukes a man will in the end gain more favor than he who has a flattering tongue." and from Whom do we gain favor by speaking up? Our Savior.

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  4. I'm not an expert on the Catholic church or on the history of Ireland, but I can't help but wonder: Not all Catholics are unbelievers headed for hell. There are true Christians within the Catholic church, both today and in the past, in the small minority certainly, but never-the-less there. Wherever the Word of God is read it will do it's work in drawing souls to God. This Catholic priest lived in Ireland in 1139 AD according to your post above. Was there a protestant church in Ireland at that time? No! But the Word of God was there, read by a few priests who could actually read. I don't have much use for the prophecy he gave, but to automatically say it was Satanic because it was from a Catholic priest is wrong. Martin Luther was a Catholic priest, he read the Word of God and became a true believer in Jesus Christ. When he left the RCC, many priests and nuns also left, and many of them were true believers in Jesus Christ as well. But all of that happened centuries AFTER St. Malachy gave his prophecies. Again, I am NOT saying the prophecy is true or valid, I'm just saying we do not know the true state of St. Malachy's soul or his relationship to God.

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  5. Anonymous, you're quite right that we don't know the ultimate disposition of St. Malachy. There will likely be people from any or all religions in heaven. Some we will be surprised are there and others we will be surprised that are not there.

    However we *do* know Saint Malachy engaged in a long course of Catholic studies before being ordained priest, and he had perfected his studies in sacred Catholic liturgy and theology. He was an archbishop, which means a keeper and promoter of Catholic doctrine. The odds don't look good for him being in heaven. Catholic doctrine precludes heaven for its stricter adherents, because the true grace through faith relationship with Jesus adds works. The Catholic religion is a false religion and is not Christian.

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  6. Events in the past 100 cyears or so have been manipulated by the Vatican to make the St. Malachy prophecies more accurate.

    One such case is the burial of Pope John Paul II, whose burial was delayed for at least days so that he could be buried during a solar eclipse ("Labor of the Sun" prophesy.)

    Yes, he was also born under an eclipse.

    For whatever reason, the Roman Catholics (or perhaps God Himself) wants these prophecies to be accurate enough so we will watch what happens.

    I'm watching!

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  7. Elizabeth, quote: "Catholic doctrine precludes heaven for its stricter adherents, because the true grace through faith relationship with Jesus adds works. The Catholic religion is a false religion and is not Christian."

    Judge not lest you be judged. I am caretaker for a relative, who I take to her church (St Joseph the worker). I have seen no Maryan worship or other doctrinal difficulties in their masses. They continually preach Christ Crucified, Sanctification through the Holy Spirit, and leading a holy life. They are active in anti abortion/pro life works of the spirit (bearing fruit). If this is not a Christian Church what is?

    If you read the Letters to the seven churches, you should be able to discern that Philadelphia stands for the "Body of Christ" which will include believers in the Catholic Church. If you read about the Church of Thyatira, you shold be able to discern it is doctrinally like the Catholic Church after the believers have been taken away.

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  8. Robin,

    you are using the verse from Matthew 'judge not' incorrectly. Itr actually means that before we judge we are to make sure we have 'taken the log' out of our own eye by repenting so we do not judge in hypocrisy. If we were never to judge any doctrine or person bringing a docrine we'd have to rip out half the New Testament that tells us to judge these things. Test them. Rebuke them. And so on.

    The Mayan worship was explained that by way of example of the Catholic Church melding to local customs in order to ingratiate within a new culture, the Catholic Church accepts pagan worship, whatever it may be, locally. In Guatemala where two missionaries had just returned, they showed us photos of how the Catholic Church THERE accepted Mayan sacrifices as part of Catholic worship.

    The Catholic Church is a false church. They do not hold to the basic tenets of the true faith. They add works. They deify Mary. They say Mary is sinless. They say she was ever a virgin. They invented extra-biblical doctrines such as limbo and purgatory. They bow down to idols (2nd commandment). The install priest mediators to God where Jesus is our mediator. And so on. I JUDGE the Catholic Church false and its promoters wolves.

    By this point you should be able ti discern that the Catholic Church is the worst false church ever to exist.

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  9. Re: Your treating this as a common devil

    http://risen-from-the-dead.forumotion.com/t3-testimony-against-apostates#3

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  10. Read "A Coming Of Truth: 666 The Antichrist Revealed."

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  11. This is a book where the author, who had a 'vision' reveals the antichrist.

    Sorry, not buying it.

    The scriptures are sufficient. The scriptures say that the antichrist will be revealed at the abomination of desolation. (Dan 9:27, 2 Thess 2:3). No one knows until then.

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  12. The next Bishop of Rome will take the title Sixtus.

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  13. Well if you are saying that RCC is a fake religion, can you tell me what's the genuine one?

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    1. Philippines, Yes, Roman Catholicism is a false religion. They teach that salvation can be obtained by a melding of tradition, works, and some truths contained in altered version of the bible.

      What you're asking is "What is true religion?" Below is an excerpt of a short essay answering your question. I have a link for you to read further:
      http://www.gotquestions.org/true-religion.html

      Here is the excerpt--

      Religion can be defined as “belief in God or gods to be worshipped, usually expressed in conduct and ritual” or “any specific system of belief, worship, etc., often involving a code of ethics.” Well over 90% of the world’s population adheres to some form of religion. The problem is that there are so many different religions. What is the right religion? What is true religion?

      The two most common ingredients in religions are rules and rituals. True religion is neither rules-based nor ritual-based. True religion is a relationship with God. Two things that all religions hold are that humanity is somehow separated from God and needs to be reconciled to Him. False religion seeks to solve this problem by observing rules and rituals. True religion solves the problem by recognizing that only God could rectify the separation, and that He has done so. True religion recognizes the following:

      1. We have all sinned and are therefore separated from God (Romans 3:23).

      2. If not rectified, the just penalty for sin is death and eternal separation from God after death (Romans 6:23).

      3. God came to us in the Person of Jesus Christ and died in our place, taking the punishment that we deserve, and rose from the dead to demonstrate that His death was a sufficient sacrifice (Romans 5:8; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4; 2 Corinthians 5:21).

      4. If we receive Jesus as the Savior, trusting His death as the full payment for our sins, we are forgiven, saved, redeemed, reconciled, and justified with God (John 3:16; Romans 10:9-10; Ephesians 2:8-9).

      True religion does have rules and rituals, but there is a crucial difference. In true religion, the rules and rituals are observed out of gratitude for the salvation God has provided – NOT in an effort to obtain that salvation. True religion, which is Biblical Christianity, has rules to obey (do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not lie, etc.) and rituals to observe (water baptism by immersion and the Lord’s Supper / Communion). Observance of these rules and rituals is not what makes a person right with God. Rather, these rules and rituals are the RESULT of the relationship with God, by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone as the Savior. False religion is doing things (rules and rituals) in order to try to earn God’s favor. True religion is receiving Jesus Christ as Savior and thereby having a right relationship with God – and then doing things (rules and rituals) out of love for God and desire to grow closer to Him.

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    2. The works RC do come from a sense of gratitude to God for the atoning death of Jesus, His Son, and from an abding sense of mission to discipleship in imitation of Jesus. They don't come from RCs to buy salvation. They are given as gifts of gratitude because of salvation!

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    3. Anonymous, I'm sorry but that is untrue. The RC stance is that we are NOT justified by faith alone. In the RC own words:

      "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema"
      (Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9).

      "If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema." (Canon 14).

      Anathema means cursed. So the RC canon states that if you say you are justified by faith alone, let you be CURSED. (excommunicated). Roman Catholicism negates justification by faith alone. Therefore is is a false religion.

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    4. Knowing Jesus is the only way to the Father, Religion is rules and regulations alot like Government and who can trust that !
      John 3:16 Go so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son, and whosoever believeth on him shall have Life Eternal !!!! Not Rules and Regulations....

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    5. FOllowers of Jesus know that the truth is in our relationship with Him. However, true religion does have rules and rituals, but there is a crucial difference. In true religion, the rules and rituals are observed out of gratitude for the salvation God has provided – NOT in an effort to obtain that salvation. True religion, which is Biblical Christianity, has rules to obey (do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not lie, etc.) and rituals to observe (water baptism by immersion and the Lord’s Supper / Communion). Observance of these rules and rituals is not what makes a person right with God. Rather, these rules and rituals are the RESULT of the relationship with God, by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone as the Savior. More here
      http://www.gotquestions.org/true-religion.html

      You CAN trust Jesus. But never think that because you have trusted Him you are released from following rules and rituals.

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    6. how do all these christians who think they know what the catholic church teaches get information? Do they actually go to a catholic church on a regular basis or do they just believe everything they hear. I was raised in a catholic church where the pastor taught that the only way to heaven is through Jesus Chrsit. Alot of religions in the world are false why just pick on the catholics

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    7. Anonymous, If you see above, I quoted CATHOLIC writings, doctrine, and Popes. Sure, the Catholics preach Jesus, they also preach Mary, tradition, extra-biblical methods of attaining heaven, practice idolatry and violate several Commandments.

      Yes there are many false religions. Why pick on the Catholics? They're the most dangerous, being the closest counterfeit. And, I got to start somewhere.

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