Mayor who says Obama a 'carnal manifestation of evil' won his Mayoral election. Handily.

Women are fainting again at Obama rallies. HuffPo reports that "Another one of President Barack Obama's speeches was interrupted Thursday when a woman fainted. According to The New York Times, Obama had been criticizing his Republican rivals during the speech, which focused on energy policy, when he paused to alert officials that someone in the crowd had fainted. ... Obama told the crowd that "folks faint all the time at my events." Another woman fainted during a speech at Nashua Community College in Nashua, N.H earlier this month. In 2008 the Wall Street Journal published an article entitled "We Shall Be Overcome," which chronicled a series of Obama campaign events where women fainted."

Overcome with what, though? Look at these women as they listen to Obama, for all the world they look spellbound.
Woman faints while listening to Obama, source
The NY Times notes this week, At Obama rallies, fainting spells resurge, but what is that really saying? That the weaker women are, the stronger Obama is? The Times reports,

"It is the third time this month that someone has fainted during one of the president’s speeches. A woman fainted last week as Mr. Obama spoke at a Daimler plant in Mt. Holly, N.C. A week earlier, a woman passed out as Mr. Obama spoke at Nashua Community College in Nashua, N.H."

In 2008 the NY Times, as fascinated with Obama then as now, chronicled the fainting events, and mused on them in that aforementioned article, "We Shall Be Overcome":

"What exactly are we to make of this? A cynic might wonder if the whole thing isn't staged, given how often it happens and how well-honed and self-serving Obama's standard response seems to be. But if it's spontaneous, that's in a way even more unsettling. At the New Hampshire rally, Larry David of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" fame quipped, "Sinatra had the same effect on people." Sinatra made girls swoon by singing romantic songs. But America isn't electing a crooner in chief. Obama has a talent for eliciting intense emotion--an ability that can be dangerous in a politician. What more does he have to offer? That's a hard question to answer, and it makes the prospect of an Obama presidency quite worrisome."

You got that right it's worrisome. However, women are not the only ones demonstrably affected by Obama's presence and aura. United Kingdom Prime Minister David Cameron fell all over himself this week at an event with Obama. The UK Daily Mail, never one to mince words, reported,

Starstruck David Cameron's embarrassing fawning over Barack Obama and his 'beautiful words'
"What David Cameron described as his 'guys night out' watching basketball with President Barack Obama in the swing state of Ohio was cheesy and embarrassing enough. But has there ever been a speech given by a British prime minister that was quite as cringeworthy as Cameron's 'toast' to Obama at last night's State Dinner? In the video below, Cameron starts speaking at the 8:20 point and almost immediately hails Obama's 'strong and beautiful words'. It's downhill from there. Then comes what must surely be one of the most obsequious things Obama - who is well used to adulation - has ever heard. Obama, says Cameron 'has pressed the reset button on the moral authority of the entire free world'. What? Pass the sickbag. Whichever way you look at it, that's ridiculous."

Even the NY Times Blog noted, "When Barack Met David: A Trans-Atlantic Love Story"
"This is intended as a quick catch-up for American readers who may have inexplicably missed the top news story of the week: you just had a visit from the British prime minister. And, by the way, his name is David Cameron. Foreign leaders turn up in Washington with the same regularity that pro-consuls and minor princelings once took the road to ancient Rome. So, if you missed it, you’re forgiven. In the British media, however, this particular three-day meet-and-greet was followed as if it were the second coming. British officials were spinning like nuclear centrifuges to stress the importance of this latest manifestation of the “special relationship” and of the depth and warmth of the personal ties between “Barack” and “David.”

"Second coming"? Ugh. Ew. Ick.

Obama does engender some strong reactions, but those reactions are not all fawning and fainting. "New Mexico town elects mayor who called Obama 'manifestation of evil' the New Mexico Politics magazine reports. The newly elected mayor, David Lansford, handily beat his opponent with 63 percent of the vote, by the way. What does that tell you. Even though the newly elected mayor participated in ATLAH’s mock treason trial of President Barack Obama and wrote articles for its online publication, calling Obama an illegitimate president under the Constitution and “the carnal manifestation of evil,” claiming Obama’s election was part of a CIA conspiracy, he handily won. Apparently not everyone is bamboozled by Obama's fainting aura.

By the way, ATLAH is 'ATLAH World Missionary Church' on 123rd Street in New York City and is pastored by James David Manning.

I'd like to get back to the 'carnal manifestation of evil' comment. Is Mayor Lansford totally crazy to say such a thing? I'd venture to say that all liberals and a good many conservatives would say he is. I would say let's look at the bible. Is there precedent for evil to manifest into this realm? Yes.

First, we read that there is an evil demon-being behind the Prince of Tyre (Ezekiel 28) and the Prince of Persia (Daniel 10:13). They are the demonic entities behind the earthly thrones assigned to those areas and it is understood that they are fallen angels oppressing and directing those earthly leaders so as to thwart the plans of God. In the case of Persia, the incident is recorded in Dan 10 where the angel assigned to carry a message to Daniel was prevented from doing so for 21 days, until the angel Michael was dispatched to go help break the standoff.

But just as fallen angels oppress and harass earthly leaders, so good angels help and aid earthly leaders. At least, for sure we know of one who is assigned to the people Israel, the angel Michael (Daniel 12:1).

The angel who was sent to Daniel was a carnal manifestation of good, sent by God to physically appear and deliver news in person. We can also assume that the evil angels can do the same, physically manifest and appear to us on earth to deliver news in person. We know this not only from the verses above but also Genesis 6:2,4 when the evil angels saw that the daughters of men were beautiful and took all that they chose for wives and they had children by them. In that recorded incident, evil manifested on earth in the flesh for long periods of time and interacted in normal human ways, such as talking, eating, walking, speaking; and apparently also interacted in intimate ways with people too.

As we see above, obviously opinions are divided as to whether Obama is good or evil. But there is no doubt that he is something different, in that he is able to cause physiological reactions in people who are predisposed to him to the extent that they faint (or get tingles up their leg). My personal opinion is that he IS a carnal manifestation of evil. I agree with Mayor David Lansford.

Jesus told us that the time right before His second coming would include days like they were in Noah's time. (Mt 24:37). Those days were so evil God was grieved He had made humanity (Genesis 6:5) because every intention of their hearts was evil all the time. In Matthew 24 Jesus was referring to the time when the Restraining ministry of the Holy Spirit will have been lifted, (2 Thessalonians 2:6-7), the Tribulation period after the rapture. We can see the slow lifting of His hand now, with evil rising so quickly it defies the senses.

What am I trying to say here? We know from scriptures that evil does manifest, we know from scriptures that the time of the end will be especially rife with all kinds of evil, false signs, false apostles masquerading as ministers of righteousness, and that demonic evil thrives behind some thrones. Is Obama one of those? Quite probably. As the election season becomes more frenzied the question will no doubt come up again, as it did in 2008. However, we know this from Peter's discourse about false teachers and their destruction:

"if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from the Lord. But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish." (2 Peter 2:9-12).

Jude says "In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them." (Jude 1:8-10).

If Michael, who knows better than any angel the evil that his former compatriot satan has wrought against the holy God, it is he. Yet even Michael dares not slander the evil ones. We shouldn't either. Jesus will rescue the Godly from trials and hold the unrighteous for punishment.

There is also a curious statement by Paul in 1 Corinthians 6:3, with Paul reminding the Corinthians "don't you know that we will judge angels?" The context before and after does not say whether we will judge the good ones, the bad ones, or all of them, or if it simply means we will rule over them, but in any case the simplest interpretation is that we will be exalted over angels in some way, they being a higher class of created being than us at present. This means that we do not have to slander celestial beings now (if Obama is one) or slander human beings now (if Obama is one) because it will all be taken care of at the time of the end. Do not worry about the 2012 election. We just have to rely on God, obey Him, persevere, and wait for justice. It will come.


  1. Just in time for the elections...

  2. I missed this the first time around. Wow, the Mayor really went out on a limb making that statement. It's a wonder he's still around to do his job. Elizabeth, I'd like to personally thank you for your teaching skills. I wish I lived closer to you so we could do Bible study together. :)


    1. Hi Kim! You're welcome! I attribute all to the Holy SPirit. I'd love it if we were closer together...wouldnt that be great!! :)

      I noticed when I re-read this article that when I clicked on the Clovis news article link that Clovis News had taken down the article about the mayor and his comments about Obama being the carnal manifestation of evil. Sigh. So I changed the link to another article that recorded the mayor saying that. In that article from NM Politics, the mayor also unabashedly says he doesn't believe Obama is constitutionally qualified to be President and readily admits to being a birther. I was amused tat a birther mayor who states baldly that O is a carnal manfistation of evil was elected- HANDILY.

      I checked the Clovis Journal, and Mayor Lansford is still mayor and going strong. Their article about the city council meeting in which Lansford is quoted is from 1 day ago. Full disclosure- the mayor was mayor for three terms prior to his stepping down in 2008. He took one term off and then was re-elected. The people knew what they were getting in the Mayor and obviously preferred him to the one-term incumbent. Whether his Obama comments helped him along is a matter of speculation. Personally, I like to think so. :)


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