Thursday, January 24, 2013

Obama: Lord of the Flies

Drudge has an interesting photo-montage at his home page just now.


The Telegraph UK has a story one how often flies land on or buzz near Obama:

"Barak Obama provides landing pad for fly"

This really isn't an academic question. The Lord of the Flies is real.
Question: "Who was Beelzebub?"

Answer: “Beelzebub” is the Greek form of the name “Baal-zebub,” a pagan Philistine god worshiped in the ancient Philistine city of Ekron during the Old Testament times. It is a term signifying “the lord of flies” (2 Kings 1:2). Even archaeological excavations at ancient Philistine sites have uncovered golden images of flies. It was later on that the Jews changed the name to “Beelzeboul,” as used in the Greek New Testament, meaning “the lord of dung.” It referenced the god of the fly which was worshiped to obtain deliverance from the injuries of that insect. Some biblical scholars believe it was also known as "the god of filth" which later became a name of bitter scorn in the mouth of the Pharisees. As a result, he was a particularly contemptible deity and was used by the Jews as an epithet for Satan.
More here

"And all winged insects are unclean for you; they shall not be eaten." (Deuteronomy 14:19)

"He spoke, and there came swarms of flies, and gnats throughout their country." (Psalm 105:31)

"Dead flies cause the oil of the perfumer to send forth an evil odor; so does a little folly outweigh wisdom and honor." (Ecclesiastes 10:1)

Just sayin' ;)

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  1. And Obama is still another soul that needs Christ. I'm not an Obama supporter or sympathizer, im aware of all that he is doing and has done. But I honestly have noted that some Christians today take the Obama bashing a bit too far sometimes. I'm conviced from what ive read in sime message boards that some genuinely hate the guy. It's really weird. Paul was harsher on false teachers than he ever was on Ceaser. I wont be surprised if Christians today spend more time critizing their presidents (including Obama) than they do praying for them.

    Just sayin'

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    1. Yes he needs Christ. I hope he finds Christ.

      He is an elected person who is systematically destroying all that our nation is and stands for and I'm not shy about saying so. But since he is our judgment and since God is sovereign, one bright spot about his tenure is that it has helped me shift my attachments from my country to the Better Country ahead.

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    2. I agree with you. Christ takes no pleasure in any soul being lost. I have been guilty of hating obama but have come under conviction lately to pray for Barack Obama, for his soul because, after all, who am I to judge another. Only Christ who is without sin is able to judge. My job is to pray that obama asks for forgiveness and recieves Christ as Lord and Saviour. The truth of Gods word is able to set you free from hating obama or allowing obama to steal your joy which is in Christ Jesus. God is able. In Christ Jesus. Dave L

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    3. Just saying: Obama does not want Christ. I believe he has made that perfectly clear. UH....just saying.

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    4. I don't think it is that people hate the guy. They just hate what he represents- pure evil. Admit it... this guy is the closest thing to an anti- christ that we have seen. I don't feel to compassionate toward someone like him who hates us and our country. It say's in the Bible to turn our backs to evil. Sometimes, it is even wise to not pray for the evil, but to run from it. I will lose not one ounce of energy feeling sorry for this guy as he embraces what ever is occupying his soul. I seriously doubt it is Jesus. He is slimey, and stands for everything I abhore. Remember- Lucifer was once the angel with the highest status of angels under God. He was beautiful and had great musical skills. This does not make me want to care about his future. I hope he and Obama get exactly what they deserve. I will leave that decision to Christ as I don't want to even think about it- too scarey. If God chooses to change Obummer's heart, that's his choice. But...remember, Obummer has a thing called "free will". Just because he is led to water, he cannot be forced to drink. What ever he gets is his fault.

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    5. "Just saying: Obama does not want Christ. I believe he has made that perfectly clear. UH....just saying."

      and I bet there are ALOT of people who are christians today that had many people thinking that about them. Just because you've given up on him doesn't mean God has and it doesn't mean children of God are not to pray for Him as our president. There are people that were satanists, into new age, into witchcraft that have turned to Christ. I'm really glad my mother didn't give up praying for me when I ran away from my upbringing and rejected Christ as a young adult.

      Yeah, Obama gives me the same vibes many have commented on here but I'm not going to get carried away by feelings and vibes and will focus on what I've been commanded to do by the word of God. (that includes praying for him and calling him out).

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    6. President Obama identifies as a Christian, and attends worship services. Who are you to decide what his faith is? That seems like mightily un-Christian arrogance.

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    7. Tom, because James said that faith without works is dead. (James2:26). Because Jesus said we will know the false ones by their fruit. (Matthew 7:16). Because they can appear godly but deny the power of it (2 Tim 3:5). Because they can even attend church and appear to do godly things, but love the world and go away, thereby proving their false profession (2 Tim 4:10).

      It does dishonor to accept every person who says they are a Christian (and he never said he loved Jesus) and yet allow them to wallow in an UNtransformed life. Jesus said that many will say to Him on His day that they claimed Him, but Jesus will say He never knew them. (Mt 7:22)

      More here on faith without works being dead
      http://www.gotquestions.org/faith-without-works-dead.html

      "In his epistle, James makes the statement “For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also” (James 2:26). Faith without works is dead faith because the lack of works reveals an unchanged life or a spiritually dead heart. There are many Scriptures that make it very clear that true saving faith will result in a transformed life which is demonstrated by the “works” we do. How we live reveals what we believe and whether the faith we profess to have is a living faith."

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    8. Tom,
      Mormons, JW's, Christian Scientists, and members of all other cults also call themselves "Christian." However, none of them even know the Christ of the Bible, let alone the God of the Bible.

      Obama worshiped at a United Church of Christ assembly for at least 20 years prior to being elected. The UCC is such a liberal denomination that they practice virtually nothing Jesus taught - they are totally apostate. To top it off, the particular assembly at which Obama worshiped taught and promoted the Black Liberation Theology heresy, which is not only a false social gospel, but a very racist one at that.

      Obama is the most pro-abortion president in history - and God certainly is against the murder of the unborn. Obama is the most pro-homosexual President in history, forcing the homosexual agenda into the military and every where else possible, as well as sanctioning same-sex fake marriage. God says homosexual behavior is an abomination to Him and yet Obama spits in God's face. Obama has proven himself to be anti-Israel, and God says those who are against Israel will be cursed.

      There are much more ungodly issues that Obama supports, and yet he claims to love God and be a Christian?!?!? His god is an idol.

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    9. Cesar didn't claim to be a follower of Jesus. Obama not only claims to be a follower of Jesus but he pushes sinful policies clothing them in Scripture. He does what God's Word says not to do about Scripture "twist it" what did Satan do with Scripture? Therefore Obama deserves to be rebuked and people need to be warned about such a devious fellow.
      Romans 16:17
      I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.


      Furthermore... God's people are having dreams of warning about Obama about his true colors. Also many women who don't exactly love Jesus Christ are having dreams where Obama's seducing them. What did the serpent do to eve in the garden? In Obama's healthcare trash bill, Obama bribes women with free birth control at the expense of people of conscious paying for it. So he is sanctifying sin,rewarding it and penalizing people who desire Gods path of purity.

      Obama calls his limo the beast. Out of all the Secret Service code names in the world he chose the word renegade. Obama can't help but to be who he is. Just as Judas chose to betray Jesus Obama is choosing to be an enemy of Christ. That is why Obama defiantly mocks Gods will and exalts sin. Gods word teaches us not to covet our neighbors property. Obama teaches lazy, sinful people they have a right to others property. Gods word teachers that marriage is between a man and woman. Obama publicly endorses what Gods word calls an abomination.



      Jesus said "there's nothing hidden that will not be revealed " because you find things obvious doesn't mean all do. God is allowing the things of darkness to be exposed. What's obvious about obama being the anti christ is because God allowing it to be so to a discerning eye. Here's others https://www.youtube.com/watch?
      v=HkDgcfGletI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

      Revelation 13:2

      The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.

      Acts 2:17

      "'In the last days, God says,
      I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
      Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
      your young men will see visions,
      your old men will dream dreams.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB5MELnOxA8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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  2. come on he's a demon second in command..... Baal likes children sacrifices (abortion) and newtown and causes murder and mayhem all the mass murder than he steps out of the way for the real evil the anti Christ read paradise lost

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  3. Interesting... but I think this piece could stand some heavy editing, be worked out a bit more, and eventually be included in the "Language of God" series along with frogs, locusts, and perhaps birds. Stuff like this gets the world talking, and while yes, it's fine to see Obama as a man in need of God, unless I get a chance to meet him, I will be more effective to more confused souls if I celebrate the fact that the Creator is in control and has a sense of humor.

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  4. Thanks for the laugh! Yep, Obama certainly is the Lord of the Flies.

    I do have to say that it is not "bashing" someone to tell the truth about what their ideology and teachings are. Too often I am told I am "bashing" false teachers when all I do is examine their teachings in the light of Scripture.

    As Elizabeth pointed out, Obama has wrought more moral destruction to this country than any previous president; he has virtually neutered our military; he panders to Islam, he has trounced all over the Constitution; he has bankrupted this nation economically as well as morally; and--- well, I think you get the picture. He is dangerous, but he is who God gave this country because this country has turned away from God.

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    1. you are right..... read isaiah 9-10 when the nation of israel turn from god..... read what happen ..it is happening again

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  5. While I agree it is a bit extreme to take out on one man that he is the anti-Christ, or related to such, just because you disagree with his politics, it is interesting. It is fishy that this is such a common theory amongst Christians, and it raises suspicion as to why so many Christians feel so fervently about it. Do I believe Obama is just a man who needs God and hopefully will come to better run and respect the country? Yes. However, it is odd that this is such a common theory and makes so many people feel strongly. Sometimes, when people have a bad feeling about something, it isn't for nothing.

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    1. Hi Anonymous,

      I don't feel that Obama is a nearly-visible manifestation just because I "disagree with his politics". Nope. I disagreed with Bush. I disagreed with Clinton. I disagreed with Carter. Those men were not a nearly visible manifestation of spiritual warfare. Obama is. Why?

      Because of what you aptly pointed out. Many Christians feel fervently that there is something 'hinky' here. That widespread and notable feeling isn't for nothing.

      It is because of his nearly supernatural ability to hypnotize and beguile mass audiences. It is because of his effect on people to the point where they swoon and even faint. It is because of his monumental amounts of the same qualities that the antichrist shares: impervious to accountability, towering arrogance, insubstantial flatteries, and self-promotion in such quantities not seen previously in even the most confident President. It is because of all those things Plus his appearance at the world stage at this specific moment.

      Do not forget that angels are on earth- the holy angels and the demon angels. They manifest and they do their work. In addition, other people have been and continue to be possessed by demons. If you want the verses I got 'em. Deep evil exists and is present on this world.

      I feel that Obama is a different animal altogether than America has ever dealt with before. Germany did, with Hitler. Now it's our turn to face supernatural evil. That is my opinion of what I feel we are dealing with.

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    2. Rev 13 ch 2 tells us what the beast(not the anti christ) looks like. "He will resemble a leopard. what is there about a leopard that sets it apart from other animals. It has spots(two colors) Could the beast be bi-racial?

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    3. Anonymous, I think that is stretching an interpretation a bit far. Also, Revelation 13 records two beasts, one IS the antichrist, the other is the false prophet.

      Of the three animals are used to describe him, the leopard, speaks of swiftness. A bear, speaks of strength. And a lion, speaks of fierceness and tenacity.

      "It's a perfect parallel to Daniel's prophecy. Daniel said Babylon is a lion, fierce and majestic. Daniel said Medo Persia is a bear, strong and powerful. Daniel said Greece is a leopard, swift and here the Lord shows John that the Beast in his empire will be Babylon, Medo Persia and Greece all rolled into one. The fierceness of the lion, the strength of the bear, the swiftness of the leopard combined in this incredible, powerful individual."

      Here is more info on the coming world ruler
      http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1266/the-coming-world-ruler

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  6. what do think the devil is going to come in a red suit and horns in the bible it said.... he that is.. but is not ...the greatest trick of the devil ever played is to make people think he doesn't exist... he is the master of deception author of confusion....that sound like Obama and demon-crats they cant stop lying and the flies follow

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  7. can you show us where in the Bible where it says GOD will save Lucifer?

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    1. The fallen angels (Lucifer among them) will be given no chance to repent. Their fate is sealed. The Lake of Fire was created for the devil and his angels. Matt. 25:41,

      More here
      Question: "Why doesn't God give the fallen angels a chance to repent?"
      http://www.gotquestions.org/angels-repent.html

      and still more here
      http://carm.org/fallen-angels-go-lake-fire-forever
      Fallen angels go to the lake of fire forever

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    2. Who is "Lucifer"? I really wish Christians would quit giving Satan that name.

      http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2010/08/is-satans-name-lucifer.html

      I don't know if he even has a proper name, since Satan and Devil both mean "adversary."

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    3. There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. (Isaiah 14:12) Satan and Devil are titles. Lucifer is likely his given name.

      FMI, http://www.gotquestions.org/Lucifer-Satan.html

      Who is satan?, http://carm.org/satan

      Strong's: Lucifer, From halal (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star -- lucifer. see HEBREW halal

      We have bigger battles to charge at than this one.

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  8. “The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycamores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars” (Isaiah 9:10). Israel is collapsing, but people still try to solve their problems themselves instead of turning to God.

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  9. " beelzabub god of the Philisitines" (where Palastines derive their name) you connect the dots.

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  10. Not in my recollection has there ever been anyone caught on video with so much with regards to flies- especially around his face. And there was the incident a few years ago, in the rose garden I think, where he was giving some type of speech and a rat ran in front of the podium and I was thinking back then those were some interestingly prophetic events.

    This man goes beyond the simple evilness of men-- I feel his evil borders on supernatural. People are under his spell, they believe him despite all the destruction they see. He voted against the "born alive infant protection" act on more the one occasion, he hates Israel, he and his wife hate this country (that I firmly believe was Divinely inspired), we are more divided now then ever, but the divide isn't along racial lines necessarily. They're around moral lines, christian lines, good vs evil lines.

    Obama has all the appearance of a demon to me.

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    1. I thought so too, Anonymous, there hasn't been another public figure (that I can remember) with so many incidents of flies buzzing on or around him. I had forgotten about the rat.

      I also agree he goes beyond the simple evil of men. There is something else that's almost palpable happening here.

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    2. Also- remember when he caught that fly in mid air-- the guy is creepy

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    3. One more thing on the fly thing- I don't thin I've ever seen a live fly indoors in the winter. Ever. That all adds up to something.

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  11. Obama has all the appearance of a man lost in his sin, drowning in the slime of the world' sewer.

    Pray for him as commanded in scripture - of course, be aware of his character - certainly - get ready and be prepared - ABSOLUTELY!

    Look forward to reading the Pink article. Thanks for the link.

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    1. His conscious is seared, he will be the one who will have to pray for salvation. He made his choice. He thinks he has all that Islam sewed up for his soul. He is playing a game using every ethnic and every religion. Islam is a false religion that feeds on hate. Obama is not of US.

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  12. Obama is rotten through and through.

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  13. Obama was ushered in as a tyrannical leader and has given America a life that's divisive between white vs. black, rich vs. poor, Christian vs. Muslim, Jewish vs. Muslim, liberal vs. conservative, moral vs. immoral, and ultimately extremely harmful towards what our Founders envisioned. His political "second coming" will be more of the same, but even worse! The vengeance of BHO (which was a favorite topic in his campaign speeches) against Americans he disagrees with has not even begun!

    BHO is virulently destructive to our U.S. Constitution. He tramples upon it and disregards the fact that our nation was born as a Judeo/Christian one; and our Declaration of Independence was written as a result of the Founders desire to follow the Ten Commandments in the Bible.

    If the left wants to think of BHO as their "messiah," how terribly disappointed they will be when they finally realize that BHO's body, mind, soul, and spirit was sown perishable (and remains that way unless he repents of his sins and turns from his reprobate mindset) and his ideology is "nothing new under the sun" but a throw-back to tyrants of death from history. He will use them, then dispose of them when their useful-idiot status is no longer needed.

    BHO was raised into the political world in secular humanistic "glory" (which never lasts) but will one day be sown in eternal dishonor.

    BHO appears to have been raised into the political world of secular humanism in power, but will one day be sown into an ultimate, never-ending hell of weakness.

    BHO will inevitably one day be raised imperishable in order to face judgment. The trouble is, without genuine belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, BHO will join all of those who out rightly reject Jesus Christ and will appear at the White Throne Judgment. It is a judgment where each sinner who has died has done so with their own sins on their soul. Spending eternity in separation from God leaves a person vulnerable to the pain of experiencing death that never ends. Recall the story of Lazarus and the rich king.

    Only the born again believers in Christ will face the Judgment Seat of Christ and be able to say that belief in Christ's sacrificial death and His forgiveness for their sins has saved them from the judgment of eternal hell fire. Because of Christ's sacrifice, we can claim the words of the hymnist as our own:

    "Living, He loved me; dying He saved me; buried He carried my sins far away; rising He justified freely forever; one day He's coming--O glorious day" (Wilber Chapman, 1908).

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  14. Well BO...Demon undercover must be giving off right B.. O... for the flies and rat to be so friendly towards Him, as they recognize a kindred spirit! Another Great Post Elizabeth.
    Rebecca Bonnell x

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  15. do people really belive this kind of bs?

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    1. Of course we do. We marvel equally that people don't believe in Jesus. We think, How can they NOT? But then we remember that until we have faith and repent, the scales were on our eyes just as they are on yours, and we see nothing because of the spiritual darkness that inside. See, the thing is, God is GOOD. The problem is, we are NOT. Jesus is the bridge between God's goodness and our badness. The badness that is in us is sin (you sin, everyone sins) is wiped away if we are sorry for them and ask Jesus to cleanse us. I hope you pray to Him, ask Him to open your eyes and show you the way. He will. If you came to this site and took time to comment, it means something. Non-believers do not care about this stuff, people who are troubled in spirit...do.

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  16. I saw the Obama fly pictures and yesterday googled Lord of the Flies. Then saw the passage from Solomon referring to Bealzbub, then your site. Came across book and movie made way back by the same name, so read what it was about. Couldn't get this off my mind last night as I sat down to watch TV. Watched the end of Captains Corageous on TBS and all of a sudden across the screen was this, "Coming Up....Lord of the Flies". Shocked.

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  17. To say flies land on Obama is racist!

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  18. We shall know them by their fruits

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  19. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I've understood exactly what it is you are "just sayin'" in this post. Exactly which conclusions have you drawn from a fly's landing repeatedly on Obama's face? I would really like you to state them explicitly.

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    1. Mooselechat, before I answer, I need to know something. Are you a born-again Christian? Or no?

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    2. This response will be in two parts because it is longer than the comment box will allow.

      The bible is a book that is THE word, as it were. But to teach is, it uses words, and it also uses poetry, parables, and picture symbols to teach the concepts Jesus wants us to know. Picture symbols are used often, because though words change, (like “incontinent” of 2 Tim 3) pictures don’t. Even an urbanite living in Chicago or Rio who never saw a farm, knows about sheep and their qualities. Revelation is especially replete with picture symbols that John used to attach to the concepts Jesus wanted us to know from John’s time to ours, that John struggled with expressing in words because they were of a future time and no vocabulary was invented for those things yet. It’s why he always said, “like a…” or “It was like…”

      Those kinds of concepts, metaphors and picture allusions are alive and well today. God uses them and satan uses them. I’ve written many times about the darkening of the movie industry and the overlay of allusions satan is giving us in his eternally evil message. The film titles, posters, and occultish plots are part of his plan to inure us to his doctrines and make them palatable. For example, look at the statue of the woman riding the beast as the European Union symbol, and the EU parliamentary building which looks like the tower of Babel. Obelisks adorn many high places in most cities and towns. And the intentionally introduced notion of a ‘friendly’ or ‘loving’ vampire? (Twilight). Remember, all a vampire wants to do is take your blood. The opposite of Jesus, who gave His blood for us.

      It is the language of symbols, a language too many Christians are unfamiliar with. The symbolism at the 2012 Olympics made even some pagans uncomfortable, and more than one Christian noticed the advance of satan’s language into our culture and thus our minds. I wrote about some of the symbols in 2009 here--
      http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2009/10/eu-end-time-symbols-too-blatant-to.html

      Yet too often, people dismiss the palpably evil symbolism and the allusions surrounding them because somehow, they think, we have outgrown them. Or they are too subterranean to give credence to, or even detect. However, the demons express themselves in pictures and symbols in our culture all the time. It is a mode of communication that is alive and well.
      ------end part 1------

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    3. When Obama came on the scene in late 2007, lots of Christians were discomfited by a very real feeling of evil about him. Many more said or intimated he is the antichrist. I do not think he is, but he is definitely a forerunner. Why were so many people feeling a spiritually icky feeling about him and not any other candidate or public figure then or since? Why are so many people fainting in his presence? How did he hold people spellbound and beguiled at his mere words? And weirdly, why did so many flies land on or near Obama? Even inside buildings? In winter? Inside the rarified area of the White House?? Once he caught a fly so quickly the interviewer was shocked. I do not recall this happening to any other president US or otherwise, ever. Yet it happens repeatedly to Obama. (and remember the rat that scurried by him in the Rose Garden).

      The world’s reaction to Obama is more than charisma. His entry into the battlefield of earth signaled a deepening of the spiritual war. The writer of Hebrews tells us that holy angels are among us whilst we are unaware. Paul said in 2 Cor 11:15 that satan masquerades as a minister of righteousness and so do his demons. So who is to say that the angel we entertain is a GOOD angel? Are not the unholy angels around us too? And they incarnate and manifest. What if Obama was an unholy angel, walking on this earth for a time? The bible shows us that they do incarnate, and that they do spend time on earth, as short as an hour, (delivering message to Mary) or overnight, (Sodom) or for longer periods. (Genesis 6)

      Baalzebub is AKA Lord of the Flies, says GotQuestions.
      ““Beelzebub” is the Greek form of the name “Baal-zebub,” a pagan Philistine god worshiped in the ancient Philistine city of Ekron during the Old Testament times. It is a term signifying “the lord of flies” (2 Kings 1:2). Even archaeological excavations at ancient Philistine sites have uncovered golden images of flies. It was later on that the Jews changed the name to “Beelzeboul,” as used in the Greek New Testament, meaning “the lord of dung.” It referenced the god of the fly which was worshiped to obtain deliverance from the injuries of that insect. Some biblical scholars believe it was also known as "the god of filth" which later became a name of bitter scorn in the mouth of the Pharisees. As a result, he was a particularly contemptible deity and was used by the Jews as an epithet for Satan.’

      It is a fact we are in the end time (have been since the ascension) and it is a fact that as birth pangs go, they get worse as time goes on. How much worse are they 2000 years later? How much more ramped up is the spiritual warfare? Worse. You saw it in the bible when Jesus came. Demons were crawling all over the earth. One of His main ministries was delivering sinners from demons. Like the Days of Noah, it is so again, demons are crawling over the earth, some visible and some not. Demons never went away.

      What if the palpable feeling of evil Christians get about Obama means that he is a possessed man? Evil incarnate. What if he is an incarnated unholy angel? Explicitly, I am saying, I personally believe he is one, or the other. As a symbolic metaphor goes, I am implicitly saying flies landing on Obama all the time certainly seem to go a long way toward helping the allusion.
      ------end part 2------

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  20. Someone who is antichrist WILL NOT confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, which Barack Obama has done several times...if he was antichrist, he would even speak it...stop being deceived people!

    http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2010/09/28/president-obama-says-we-achieve-salvation-through-the-grace-of.aspx

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    1. Of course they will confess Jesus. Even the demons in Gadara called Jesus the "Most High". That's why the false Christians are wolves in sheep's clothing. As Phil Johnson preached:

      "No Christian should imagine naively that heresy is always conspicuous. That every purveyor of theological mischief is going to lay out his agenda in plain and honest terms. They almost never do that. Wolves come in sheep's clothing." ~Phil Johnson, Shepherds' Conference 2013, general session #2"

      One way to discern someone's fruits is to match what they say with what they do. In Obama's case, the two do not match.

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