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A friend was walking in the Italian-Catholic neighborhood of Boston's North End. He wrote that he passed by an impromptu shrine. He took a photo of it. I read the statement on the bottom of the shrine, which was dedicated to and all about Mary, and it sounded like a creed to me. It was also blasphemy. I decided to look it up.
Why blasphemy? The word of God does not say to "all to Mary" nor does it say to get to Jesus by going through Mary. James 4:7 says submit yourselves to God. Exodus 20:5 says not to bow down to another [besides the one true God]. Ephesians 5:23-24 says Christ is the head of the church and the church submits to Him.
The most successful false teachings are almost the truth. False teachings are like a Peanut M&M. There is an attractive, bright candy coating. There is a layer of velvety chocolate. But buried deep inside is a nut. Picture that nut as the false teaching. False teaching is layer upon layer of goodness with a hidden poison pill buried deep inside.
So often, attention is given to religions that seem like they so far away from Christianity, like atheism and Islam. But all false religions are spiritually the same, because they originate from the same source. However, some false religions seem almost true, because they claim Jesus, they use scriptures so well, and they have a seeming logic to them. But these are the most dangerous of all. For example, int eh Garden of Eden, satan disguised as a serpent didn't approach the woman by saying, "God is wrong! Don't listen to Him!" He approached the women by asking questions, insinuating, and blending half truths with lies.
When I searched for "all to Jesus through Mary" I found the following. It is brilliant in its false logic, evilly deadly in its blending of half-truths and full-on lies, you would see if you read the piece in its entirety. It is a Catholic piece written by a Catholic-educated man named Jayson Brunelle, and one of his many books that he has written is titled "The Blessed Mother’s Plan to Save Humanity." This essay about how Mary is Co-Redemptrix with Jesus appeared in the Homiletical and Pastoral Review last year.
To Jesus, Through Mary, In the Spirit of St. Joseph: The Wheat, the Rose, and the Lily
"St. Louis de Montfort and St. Maximillian Kolbe, … have consistently taught that the most appropriate response on our part to Mary’s role as spiritual mother is filial entrustment, or “total consecration” to her. This perfect devotion of total consecration to Jesus through Mary is truly the most sanctifying of all devotions."
That was the sub-hed, or the article summary. Let's take a moment to look at the word 'consecration" and what it means. It is a word that has a concept that's wide-ranging, but Easton's Bible Dictionary explains the basic meaning--
"The devoting or setting apart of anything to the worship or service of God. The race of Abraham and the tribe of Levi were thus consecrated (Exodus 13:2, 12, 15; Numbers 3:12). The Hebrews devoted their fields and cattle, and sometimes the spoils of war, to the Lord (Leviticus 27:28, 29). According to the Mosaic law the first-born both of man and beast were consecrated to God. In the New Testament, Christians are regarded as consecrated to the Lord (1 Peter 2:9).
When something is set apart for holy use, whether a priest of the Old Testament, cattle, or a New Testament modern believer, it means set apart for the Lord's use, in worship and devotion to Him. To continue with the article "To Jesus through Mary",
So very few persons, pious Catholic Christians included, realize the tremendous role of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the sanctification of souls. Being spiritual mother of the Mystical Body, she, along with the Holy Spirit, has the tasks of forming Christ in souls, and nourishing her children with the milk of divine grace.
In that passage, the author is putting a sinner, Mary, in equal position with the Holy Spirit, whose ministry it is to point to Christ in souls. (1 Corinthians 2:14). Yes, Mary was a sinner like you and me, in need of a savior. She said as much in Luke 1:27. She is a servant of God, certainly not equal with God, and said so in Luke 1:48. The One who upholds the universe by the word of His power does not make a sinner co-equal in His work! (Hebrews 1:3)
Mary does not dispense divine grace. Only our Trinitarian God does that. As Charles Spurgeon said, "It is the chief office of the Holy Spirit to glorify Christ." Yet Catholics are taught that Mary sanctifies souls, is our 'spiritual mother', and delivers divine grace.
When you speak of these things to a Catholic, they will deny they worship Mary, claiming that 'venerating' her is only giving her respect, but this lesson taught by a Catholic theologian destroys that stance in just a few sentences.
Remember, Catholics are not Christians, any more than Muslims are Christians or Atheists are Christians. Their spiritual father is the devil, (John 8:44), while all who believe the true Gospel has a spiritual Father in Jesus.
In this next passage, the author explains how Mary is the Church's "Spiritual Mother":
Mary, in giving birth to Christ the Head, also gave birth to the body connected to that Head, which is the Church. Thus, Mary, in giving birth to the source of all grace, can rightly be called “Spiritual Mother” of all who benefit from that grace.
It sounds logical, doesn't it. We understand the biology of conception, gestation, birth, and nurturing. Jesus used those analogies many times and Paul & Peter both spoke of spiritual nourishment as milk. Yet, it falls apart when we remember that first and foremost, the virgin birth was a supernatural event unlike any other in history ever before or since. And secondly, it denies the Holy Spirit's role in forming the Church, which occurred at Pentecost, by His indwelling of the believers there (Acts 2:4) who had been appointed to believe since before the foundation of the world. (cf Acts 13:48). Mary had nothing to do with it. She was a vessel being used by God (Luke 1:38).
Continuing with the article, we come to the next section, which the author has titled:
Mary, Mediatrix of all Grace
To understand the logic of total consecration to Jesus through Mary, we must first grasp Mary’s role as Mediatrix of all graces. This is the Church’s doctrine that every grace that comes to us from God comes through the willed intercession of Mary. But this role of Mary as Mediatrix of all grace is really the completion of her role as Spiritual Mother, and follows from her unique cooperation in the redemption of humanity with Christ on Calvary. ... But Mary most fully became our mother at the foot of the cross where she, in a completely singular way, participated in the redemption of humanity with Christ. That is why some theologians are wont to ascribe to Mary the title Co-Redemptrix. De Montfort said: "the more a soul is consecrated to Mary, the more it is consecrated to Jesus"
I hope your discernment and knowledge of the Word allowed you to understand that what is being taught in that Catholic Doctrine above, is that Mary is really God, or is above God. If "every grace that comes to us through God" is through Mary's will, then it is God who is taking the subservient role. In this Catholic doctrine Her will trumps His. But it is not so! It is Christ who pours out graces. (Acts 2:33). Further, this doctrine teaches that Mary is the Intercessor, not Jesus. (Romans 8:34, Hebrews 7:25).
So in just a few short sentences, or in one essay if you read it at the link, we see that Catholics are taught that Mary has a role that trumps all three roles of our Trinitarian God. As dispenser of grace and mother of the church she edges out the Holy Spirit. As intercessor she bumps out Jesus. And as giver of all graces via her own will through God she takes over His role there as well. This is why Catholicism is false. They have another god: Mary.
I bring these things up so you can be prepared when speaking with a Catholic person. I did a rudimentary and very clumsy job of apologetics here, but I hope it gave you food for thought. The creed adorning the Marian shrine in Boston's North End is emblazoned with lights and candles, but is in fact bringing a doctrine of darkness. Here is part of the author's conclusion:
Having established the irrefutable validity of Mary’s role as Mediatrix of all graces, we can now understand the reason for entrusting ourselves to her, which is the essence of Marian consecration.
O, how satan loves to take our eyes off the true Rock, the only Bread, the source of the Living Water, Jesus Christ! We do NOT consecrate ourselves to a sinner named Mary whom God used as a biological vessel. We give ourselves wholly and totally to Jesus, the only worthy one in the universe.
Our church has a mission team heading to Peru next month to witness to the lost, many of them Catholics, and these doctrines saturate the Peruvian hearts and poison their minds away from the beauty and clarity of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Please, pray for missionaries in the Catholic regions. Pray for the Light of grace from our true God to be delivered to hearts and minds wrongly focused on Mary, so they may be lifted from the bondage of sin and darkness under which they are laboring.
Mary's Magnificat was a hymn of praise and joy. Here as Charles Spurgeon explains Mary's joy at the news of the coming of the Lord, not as Mother of God, but as a sinner graciously saved, in his sermon delivered on Christmas Day 1864, on this text, "And Mary said, My soul does magnify the Lord, and my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.” Luke 1:46, 47"
"I must close by observing that while her song was all this, yet how very humble it was, and how full of gratitude. The Papist calls her, “Mother of God,” but she never whispers such a thing in her song. No, it is “God my Savior,” just such words as the sinner who is speaking to you might use, and such expressions as you sinners who are hearing me can use, too. She needs a Savior, she feels it; her soul rejoices because there is a Savior for her. She does not talk as though she could commend herself to Him, but she hopes to stand accepted in the Beloved. Let us, then, take care that our familiarity has always blended with it the lowliest prostration of spirit when we remember that He is God Over All, blessed forever, and we are nothing but dust and ashes; He fills all things, and we are less than nothing and vanity."
Will you sing of His tremendous grace, in joy at how He releases sinners from bondage? Pray for those in bondage to Mary to be released, so they also might sing of how their soul magnifies the Lord and their spirit also may rejoice in the Savior.
Why blasphemy? The word of God does not say to "all to Mary" nor does it say to get to Jesus by going through Mary. James 4:7 says submit yourselves to God. Exodus 20:5 says not to bow down to another [besides the one true God]. Ephesians 5:23-24 says Christ is the head of the church and the church submits to Him.
The most successful false teachings are almost the truth. False teachings are like a Peanut M&M. There is an attractive, bright candy coating. There is a layer of velvety chocolate. But buried deep inside is a nut. Picture that nut as the false teaching. False teaching is layer upon layer of goodness with a hidden poison pill buried deep inside.
So often, attention is given to religions that seem like they so far away from Christianity, like atheism and Islam. But all false religions are spiritually the same, because they originate from the same source. However, some false religions seem almost true, because they claim Jesus, they use scriptures so well, and they have a seeming logic to them. But these are the most dangerous of all. For example, int eh Garden of Eden, satan disguised as a serpent didn't approach the woman by saying, "God is wrong! Don't listen to Him!" He approached the women by asking questions, insinuating, and blending half truths with lies.
When I searched for "all to Jesus through Mary" I found the following. It is brilliant in its false logic, evilly deadly in its blending of half-truths and full-on lies, you would see if you read the piece in its entirety. It is a Catholic piece written by a Catholic-educated man named Jayson Brunelle, and one of his many books that he has written is titled "The Blessed Mother’s Plan to Save Humanity." This essay about how Mary is Co-Redemptrix with Jesus appeared in the Homiletical and Pastoral Review last year.
To Jesus, Through Mary, In the Spirit of St. Joseph: The Wheat, the Rose, and the Lily
"St. Louis de Montfort and St. Maximillian Kolbe, … have consistently taught that the most appropriate response on our part to Mary’s role as spiritual mother is filial entrustment, or “total consecration” to her. This perfect devotion of total consecration to Jesus through Mary is truly the most sanctifying of all devotions."
That was the sub-hed, or the article summary. Let's take a moment to look at the word 'consecration" and what it means. It is a word that has a concept that's wide-ranging, but Easton's Bible Dictionary explains the basic meaning--
"The devoting or setting apart of anything to the worship or service of God. The race of Abraham and the tribe of Levi were thus consecrated (Exodus 13:2, 12, 15; Numbers 3:12). The Hebrews devoted their fields and cattle, and sometimes the spoils of war, to the Lord (Leviticus 27:28, 29). According to the Mosaic law the first-born both of man and beast were consecrated to God. In the New Testament, Christians are regarded as consecrated to the Lord (1 Peter 2:9).
When something is set apart for holy use, whether a priest of the Old Testament, cattle, or a New Testament modern believer, it means set apart for the Lord's use, in worship and devotion to Him. To continue with the article "To Jesus through Mary",
So very few persons, pious Catholic Christians included, realize the tremendous role of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the sanctification of souls. Being spiritual mother of the Mystical Body, she, along with the Holy Spirit, has the tasks of forming Christ in souls, and nourishing her children with the milk of divine grace.
In that passage, the author is putting a sinner, Mary, in equal position with the Holy Spirit, whose ministry it is to point to Christ in souls. (1 Corinthians 2:14). Yes, Mary was a sinner like you and me, in need of a savior. She said as much in Luke 1:27. She is a servant of God, certainly not equal with God, and said so in Luke 1:48. The One who upholds the universe by the word of His power does not make a sinner co-equal in His work! (Hebrews 1:3)
Mary does not dispense divine grace. Only our Trinitarian God does that. As Charles Spurgeon said, "It is the chief office of the Holy Spirit to glorify Christ." Yet Catholics are taught that Mary sanctifies souls, is our 'spiritual mother', and delivers divine grace.
When you speak of these things to a Catholic, they will deny they worship Mary, claiming that 'venerating' her is only giving her respect, but this lesson taught by a Catholic theologian destroys that stance in just a few sentences.
Remember, Catholics are not Christians, any more than Muslims are Christians or Atheists are Christians. Their spiritual father is the devil, (John 8:44), while all who believe the true Gospel has a spiritual Father in Jesus.
In this next passage, the author explains how Mary is the Church's "Spiritual Mother":
Mary, in giving birth to Christ the Head, also gave birth to the body connected to that Head, which is the Church. Thus, Mary, in giving birth to the source of all grace, can rightly be called “Spiritual Mother” of all who benefit from that grace.
It sounds logical, doesn't it. We understand the biology of conception, gestation, birth, and nurturing. Jesus used those analogies many times and Paul & Peter both spoke of spiritual nourishment as milk. Yet, it falls apart when we remember that first and foremost, the virgin birth was a supernatural event unlike any other in history ever before or since. And secondly, it denies the Holy Spirit's role in forming the Church, which occurred at Pentecost, by His indwelling of the believers there (Acts 2:4) who had been appointed to believe since before the foundation of the world. (cf Acts 13:48). Mary had nothing to do with it. She was a vessel being used by God (Luke 1:38).
Continuing with the article, we come to the next section, which the author has titled:
Mary, Mediatrix of all Grace
To understand the logic of total consecration to Jesus through Mary, we must first grasp Mary’s role as Mediatrix of all graces. This is the Church’s doctrine that every grace that comes to us from God comes through the willed intercession of Mary. But this role of Mary as Mediatrix of all grace is really the completion of her role as Spiritual Mother, and follows from her unique cooperation in the redemption of humanity with Christ on Calvary. ... But Mary most fully became our mother at the foot of the cross where she, in a completely singular way, participated in the redemption of humanity with Christ. That is why some theologians are wont to ascribe to Mary the title Co-Redemptrix. De Montfort said: "the more a soul is consecrated to Mary, the more it is consecrated to Jesus"
I hope your discernment and knowledge of the Word allowed you to understand that what is being taught in that Catholic Doctrine above, is that Mary is really God, or is above God. If "every grace that comes to us through God" is through Mary's will, then it is God who is taking the subservient role. In this Catholic doctrine Her will trumps His. But it is not so! It is Christ who pours out graces. (Acts 2:33). Further, this doctrine teaches that Mary is the Intercessor, not Jesus. (Romans 8:34, Hebrews 7:25).
So in just a few short sentences, or in one essay if you read it at the link, we see that Catholics are taught that Mary has a role that trumps all three roles of our Trinitarian God. As dispenser of grace and mother of the church she edges out the Holy Spirit. As intercessor she bumps out Jesus. And as giver of all graces via her own will through God she takes over His role there as well. This is why Catholicism is false. They have another god: Mary.
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| The Crowning of the Virgin by the Trinity. Velázquez, 1645 |
I bring these things up so you can be prepared when speaking with a Catholic person. I did a rudimentary and very clumsy job of apologetics here, but I hope it gave you food for thought. The creed adorning the Marian shrine in Boston's North End is emblazoned with lights and candles, but is in fact bringing a doctrine of darkness. Here is part of the author's conclusion:
Having established the irrefutable validity of Mary’s role as Mediatrix of all graces, we can now understand the reason for entrusting ourselves to her, which is the essence of Marian consecration.
O, how satan loves to take our eyes off the true Rock, the only Bread, the source of the Living Water, Jesus Christ! We do NOT consecrate ourselves to a sinner named Mary whom God used as a biological vessel. We give ourselves wholly and totally to Jesus, the only worthy one in the universe.
Our church has a mission team heading to Peru next month to witness to the lost, many of them Catholics, and these doctrines saturate the Peruvian hearts and poison their minds away from the beauty and clarity of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Please, pray for missionaries in the Catholic regions. Pray for the Light of grace from our true God to be delivered to hearts and minds wrongly focused on Mary, so they may be lifted from the bondage of sin and darkness under which they are laboring.
Mary's Magnificat was a hymn of praise and joy. Here as Charles Spurgeon explains Mary's joy at the news of the coming of the Lord, not as Mother of God, but as a sinner graciously saved, in his sermon delivered on Christmas Day 1864, on this text, "And Mary said, My soul does magnify the Lord, and my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.” Luke 1:46, 47"
"I must close by observing that while her song was all this, yet how very humble it was, and how full of gratitude. The Papist calls her, “Mother of God,” but she never whispers such a thing in her song. No, it is “God my Savior,” just such words as the sinner who is speaking to you might use, and such expressions as you sinners who are hearing me can use, too. She needs a Savior, she feels it; her soul rejoices because there is a Savior for her. She does not talk as though she could commend herself to Him, but she hopes to stand accepted in the Beloved. Let us, then, take care that our familiarity has always blended with it the lowliest prostration of spirit when we remember that He is God Over All, blessed forever, and we are nothing but dust and ashes; He fills all things, and we are less than nothing and vanity."
Will you sing of His tremendous grace, in joy at how He releases sinners from bondage? Pray for those in bondage to Mary to be released, so they also might sing of how their soul magnifies the Lord and their spirit also may rejoice in the Savior.
Stated,
ReplyDelete“...The most successful false teachings are almost the truth. False teachings are like a Peanut M&M. There is an attractive, bright candy coating. There is a layer of velvety chocolate. But buried deep inside is a nut. Picture that nut as the false teaching. False teaching is layer upon layer of goodness with a hidden poison pill buried deep inside...”
Just like rat poison which is 98% wholesome edible food, its the other 2% that kills.
Mario
Hi Elizabeth, you are right, the Mary worship is idolatry and blasphemy of the highest order. Though in my witnessing, not all Catholics are hung up on this issue. But many do worship her, as you said, displacing all three Persons of the Godhead.
ReplyDelete1 Tim 2
5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
And of course the Magnificat, as you referenced with Spurgeon, "my [Mary speaking] soul rejoices in God my SAVIOR".
As a funny aside, during my childhood, I heard of the Catholic doctrine of immaculate conception. I thought, "sure that's true, Jesus was sinless, and was immaculately conceived". Well, wasn't I in for a surprise when I learned that false doctrine was actually meant to be about Mary and her supposed sinlessness.
-Carolyn
In your analysis you keep saying, "It seems logical..."
ReplyDeleteIt is logical, that is why it keeps "seeming" logical.
If you have read any philosophy you are familiar with Plato's allegory of the cave, regarding dimensional analysis, shadows, the reality of things.
Mary is the "shadow" of God, just as King David was the "shadow" of God. Mary's son, Jesus, was both the shadow and actually God - joining Godhood and Manhood together.
As Solomon said, there are no good women. That is except Mary, whom he did not know, a mother only, and not a woman in the likeness of a goddess (Eve, Solomon's mother Bathsheba, and every other woman in existence of the world.)
Imagination and sacrifice - it is the essence of a "warrior poet" like King David, and a mother, like Mary. We venerate those who are the shadow of God.
Theology and Geometry --> Confederacy of Dunces.
ANON: "In your analysis you keep saying, "It seems logical..." It is logical, that is why it keeps "seeming" logical."
DeleteMan’s logic is not God’s truth.
ANON: "If you have read any philosophy you are familiar with Plato's allegory of the cave, regarding dimensional analysis, shadows, the reality of things."
I have read it. Again, man’s philosophy is not God’s truth. Colossians 2:8 says “See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.”
ANON: "Mary is the "shadow" of God, just as King David was the "shadow" of God. Mary's son, Jesus, was both the shadow and actually God - joining Godhood and Manhood together."
There is no shadow of God. “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1:17
ANON: "As Solomon said, there are no good women. That is except Mary, whom he did not know, a mother only, and not a woman in the likeness of a goddess (Eve, Solomon's mother Bathsheba, and every other woman in existence of the world.)"
As God said, there is none good, no not one. Romans 3:10. We are all depraved sinners in need of a savior, Mary included, as she said herself (Luke 1:47)
ANON: "Imagination and sacrifice - it is the essence of a "warrior poet" like King David, and a mother, like Mary. We venerate those who are the shadow of God."
I suggest you abstain from reading Plato and Paul Coelho for a while. I also strongly urge you cease worshiping (“venerating”) Mary and repent to Holy God.
ANON: "Theology and Geometry --> Confederacy of Dunces."
Whole sentences help too.
Even angels refuse worship and Christ himself gave instruction about "venerating" or worshiping Mary.
DeleteLuke 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
If Mary gave birth to Jesus, how can she be a Virgin still? She also gave birth to others did she not? I am pretty sure those were Josephs kids.
No, your whole understanding of Mary comes from Babylon Mystery religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqH4t8mOuzg&list=PL70118C8DEDCEB4F0&index=10
May your willingness to seek the Lord cause you to find Him. Please do not allow your offended spirit to cause you not to find Him.
jeff
"False teaching is layer upon layer of goodness with a hidden poison pill buried deep inside."
ReplyDeleteDiscernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right. - Charles Haddon Spurgeon
YES!! I do pray for those who are in bondage to be set free!! And speaking of my own (in-law) family: I hope & pray the rapture will be the catalyst that will wake them up.... as from my own human perspective, I see no other way. And my MIL is getting aged and feeble.... soo......
ReplyDeleteI do sometimes wonder about Mike Gendron's perspective (you probably know about Mike, Elizabeth? He runs www.pro-gospel.org (an ex rc himself...) While I cannot claim I'm in TOTAL agreement with him about everything, yet his perspective is that a few catholics are REAL Christians -- not BECAUSE of their teaching, but IN SPITE of it.
I do have to wonder about that!
Yet, the ones I know are so steeped into it -- praying to saints, burying statues in the yard so their houses will sell.... bowing to the priest during mass [when going to help with the wine & bread], worshipping mary (though they always SAY they are NOT worshipping her....) and what's the deal about not being about to walk past an rcc without running in and bowing down near where all those candles are lit?
The ones I'm talking about are GOOD people (good as WE would define), however..... well, you guys know the howevers!!! *sigh* So, so sad......
It is true that there are those in the RCC who become Christians in spite of the RCC. They actually find the truth among all the lies. I have read many testimonies over the years from ex-Catholics who state this happened, and I have had many friends who are ex-Catholics who have stated the same.
DeleteHi Reva, actually I agree with Mike Gendron on his assessment that there are some Catholics who are truly saved - and that they don't always leave RCism immediately. I have heard/read the personal testimonies of three born again men, who, once saved, didn't immediately leave the RC church, Mike Gendron being one example. In each case, it took a while for them to fully compare the teachings of RCism to the Bible. Once they were totally confident of the true understanding of Scripture, they did leave RCism.
DeleteLike Glenn said, it is possible to find the truth among the lies in the RCC.
-Carolyn
I was a born again Christian since the age of 8 At the age of 53 I was disallusioned with the many churches. I happen to go to a Mass and loved the quiet and respectful service. It was not long before I was in RCA and two years later I became Catholic. I struggled so much with the Marian doctrine but did not trust my heart to know the truth. I thought I could take all the good and leave out the bad like many of us do in many churches. I had found a church family and many friends. Something that was sorely lacking in many churches. When I could no longer be torn... I left recently and I have to say I am so sad. I miss my church family but I don't believe in the way they lift up Mary. I don't fault them as many are cradle Catholics and would never not believe this to be wrong as they truly love the Lord Jesus. Now days I am praying and letting the Holy Spirit teach me. If he can show me the truth I have no doubt he will also lead many to the truth. You are right it is mixed with so much and can be explained away if someone is not truly grounded in the word. I truly thought I could stay and handle the things I did not agree with but I worried more about hurting my Father in heaven more than anything.
DeleteSincerely,
Starting over.
Isaiah 8:19 (And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?)
ReplyDeleteI had to skim your article. I didn't feel like being angry this early in the day. :D But I bookmarked it because I could tell it had useful information I can utilize later. You made the point very well. Good job.
...and now we have the Charismatholic Lovefest brought to you by Anglican Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer at the behest of Pope Francis, and aimed at Charismatic Word of Faith kingpin Kenneth Copeland.
ReplyDeleteI almost choked when I heard Copeland remark "Heaven is thrilled over this."
No, Kenneth. Faithful watchmen on the wall are thrilled over this. And the tragedy is that you wouldn't understand why.
Come quickly, Lord Jesus!
Almost every non-Catholic I know - including me - has thought that "immaculate conception" was talking about the conception of Jesus. Learning otherwise was quite funny.
ReplyDeleteI have a question not related to this subject, but it's weighing on my heart. I've noticed more in the past year that the verbal persecution of my Christian beliefs are being attacked more and more by atheist (mostly family members). It's getting worse every day. Could you write something in your blog explaining how to handle the angry atheist we encounter almost on a daily basis? The last attack was yesterday. My aunt posted a religious posting asking why atheists are offended by Christianity but Christians aren't offended by atheism on her Facebook page. Her son posted the following attack. "You can't be offended over an imaginary character. It's not the belief that offensive, rather, all the lies, bigotry, hate, hypocrisy and delusional refusal to accept facts that's the problem.
ReplyDeleteBelief is a lie. Belief is not needed to live a great life all we need is love and facts. That is the beauty of reality"
I'm sad for his lost soul and I've prayed that he will find salvation. This is a man who is invited to our local schools to speak against bullying others.
The bible tells us exactly how to deal with unbelievers:
Delete"5 Be wise in the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity. 6 Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone,"Col. 4:5-6(NIV)
Why is everyone always against the catholic church & expecially mother Mary. I say my rosary daily speak to mother mary daily yes she has brought me closer to jesus can't none of you so called "christians" u know the ones that judge everyone by their standard of Christianity which is really religious dogma nothing else & u same olé "christians" want to save everyone by trying to convince people that your religion is the correct way & then Yall get mad down right angry when doesn't jump on your bandwagon or agree with u very one has their own truths u so u so called christians r no better than anyone else just so tired of all these true christians always judging everything & everyone according 2 their views & beliefs
ReplyDeleteChristians are against the Catholic church because the Catholic church is against Jesus.
DeleteWe do judge, so that we know who is not of Jesus. We judge by their fruit.(Mt 7:16).
Dogma is important. It's the dividing line between truth and hell. Even your own Catholic Church has a dogmatic approach to belief.
Dogma is a generally held set of formulated beliefs. In Roman Catholicism it is a body of essential Roman Catholic teachings that cannot be denied but must be believed in order to be a true Roman Catholic, as quoted here. (General Audience, # 3, Pope John Paul II, vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/audiences/1997/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_02071997_en.html)
"The definition of the dogma, in conformity with the universal faith of the People of God, definitively excludes every doubt and calls for the express assent of all Christians."
Not everyone who claims Christ can go on their merry way believing what they want. There is one faith, delivered once for all to the saints. You must believe what has been delivered, nothing else. Hence, we test the spirits and each other. This is love- love for Jesus and for each other.
If you speak to Mary then you are sinning. Mary is dead, and God said do NOT commune with the dead. Spiritism is strictly banned
Here is a 6 minute clip showing why Catholics pray to Mary. If you choose to listen, and I hope you do, you'll hear why and how the Mary worship came into the false Catholic Church doctrine.
https://m.soundcloud.com/askpastorjohn/why-do-catholics-pray-to-mary-episode-381-reeves
And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living? Isaiah 8:19
And a number of those who had practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. Acts 19:19
Anonymous,
DeleteThe "Mary" of the Roman Catholic church is not recognizable as the real Mary of the Bible. I offer this article for your perusal:
http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2010/06/mary-mother-of-church-is-not-mary-of.html
I explain the origin of a lot or Roman Catholic Mariology, and compare such teachings to what the Bible says.
Actions speak louder than words. U christians that love 2 judge everyone , tell everyone your religion is the only way get mad when I don't want 2 jump on your bandwagon why would I I've met some good born again christians that give it & God a bad name. Most good Christians are 2 faced, gossip lovers. whoremongers. greedy etc..etc... u wonderful christians are always so worried about everyone else's soul while their soul is a hot mess. Worry about j & not about me of course I love me some jesus & mary & buddha. So if I'm comdamned. then ill.c a whole.lot of u born again christians in hell.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, you're absolutely right that actions speak louder than words. I agree, many Christians don't walk the walk. This is for two reasons: one is that we are all sinners. We sin. When we do, if we are a true Christian, we repent and ask the Spirit to help us even more greatly to love the way Jesus taught us to love.
DeleteThe second reason is that many who profess to be Christian's...aren't.
The glory of the fact of Jesus is that though there are many false Christians ALWAYS sinning and many true Christians sinning and repenting, but growing more sanctified every day- there are many who do love their neighbor and walk the walk. They live out the precepts Jesus laid down.
However, you're wrong in thinking that Buddha will help you grow in love and overcome your sin problem. Buddha is dead and we in ourselves can do nothing to improve our moral behavior. Oh, we might be 'gooder' for a while, lol, but over the long haul, Buddhists are still as dead in their sins as the rest of the people in false religions. Only Jesus is alive and sending His Spirit to help His children. This is because ONLY Jesus overcame sin. It is THROUGH Him that we overcome. This is why we say that ONLY through Jesus can we attain heaven. The rest of the people are still sinners. To go to heaven you have to be morally perfect. Only Jesus is morally perfect.
You really do not want to go to hell. It is forever. And you won't 'see the rest of the Christians' in there. You wont' see anyone. But why settle for hell when you can have everlasting joy in heaven?
If you want to become a Christian and overcome sin forever, starting to do so in this life and finishing it perfectly in the next, then repent and believe in Jesus as the ONLY way.
We always have room for one more hypocrite :)