Thursday, January 31, 2013

Jim Nabors being with a partner for 38 years in no way legitimizes homosexual marriage as a proper relationship

I wrote yesterday of the news that television actor and singer Jim Nabors, 82, married his long-time homosexual partner. I know that one thing that will strike the unbelieving world about the Jim Nabors marital news is the reported length of time he and his homosexual friend have been partners. The news reports were that they have been together for 38 years.

One thing that the non-believing supporter of homosexuality denies is the penchant for gays to hitch quick and divorce quicker, or for single gays to hop from bed to bed. Gays say that they are not defined by sexual activity, but they belie that when they fail consistently to be monogamous. Their promiscuity s legendary.

The statistics on sexual promiscuity among homosexuals are staggering. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. They are promiscuous, and rarely stay with one partner for long. (source)

So no doubt, people will be using the unhappy couple's self-stated lengthy partnership as a legitimizer for such perverse relationships. They say, "It's love!" or, "See, it's the same as heterosexual marriages!" However, whether promiscuous one-night stands or a 38 year apparent partnership, homosexual relationships are still sinful.

Length of time being involved in a sin is no credit to that sin. It is still sin. Just because you have been sinning longer is not a reason or a basis to say that it is now legitimized. If someone has been embezzling funds from your corporation for 38 years, do you forgive it, saying its length of time as an ongoing event means that it must be credible by now? Of course now. Embezzlement is a crime, just as homosexuality is a crime- against God.

As a matter of fact, length of time as an active homosexual is more of a reason to say they are condemned. In the progressive Wrath of Abandonment as outlined in Romans 1, the Lord hardens the heart and gives them over to their sinful desires of the body (Romans 1:26; Psalm 81:12).

What does it mean, exactly, that God gives them over?

Because they refused to honor God, He gave them over to the vilest of devices. It shows to what depths they fall without God. They became abandoned to the last degree. The very fact that they are a homosexual or a lesbian is illustrative of the fact that they have been given over by God. There is only one further step: being given over to their depraved mind. At that point they cannot even think right. (Romans 1:18-32). It is the end of the line.



Being given over means that if a person persists in denying the sovereignty of God for a period of time, after repeated warnings, God allows the person’s sin to take them to its inevitable conclusion. In the case of Pharaoh, God gave warnings in the form of judgment plagues, and then hardened Pharaoh's heart.

This is because Pharaoh refused to listen, and each time he refused to listen, Pharaoh hardened his own heart (Ex 7:22, Ex 8:14, Ex 8:19, Ex 8:32, Ex 9:7). After a certain point, God calls it. He gave Pharaoh over to his sin.

God is just. He is not a doormat nor a patsy. After a certain point of no return, He gives you over.

In the case of Nebuchadnezzar, God gave the king repeated warnings in the form of a dream. The final  dream came with a dire warning. Even then, God gave the king one year to repent. At the moment Nebuchadnezzar said he built the city himself and he gave himself the glory, denying God once again, Nebuchadnezzar was struck in judgment. The difference between Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar was that when Nebuchadnezzar came out of his insanity period, he repented and gave God the glory. Pharaoh never did. Who knows how many more warnings and dreams would have been given Nebuchadnezzar, if any, but it is wise to heed His warnings the first time. God is merciful in not smiting us at birth for being sinners against Him. He is long-suffering, allowing our sins to progress until He decides to either regenerate us into new life, or harden us into spiritual death. He is patient, for example, waiting a full year for Nebuchadnezzar to repent. God is love, we are made in His image. But he is also just, and He judges us.

I am not saying a homosexual person has no chance of being saved. Any person can repent and will be welcomed into the Kingdom of God. What I am saying is that the longer you go in not addressing your sin, the more chance that God will give you over. We don't know when that moment is. He does this with nations. It is called The Wrath of Abandonment. Romans 1 outlines the progression.

He also does this with individuals. There IS a point of no return. Homosexuality is the signal that it is very far along in the path of no return.

GotQuestions writes,
"[I]f we don’t confess our sins, they have a cumulative and desensitizing effect on the conscience, making it difficult to even distinguish right from wrong. And this sinful and hardened heart is tantamount to the “seared conscience” Paul speaks of in 1Timothy 4:1-2. Scripture makes it clear that if we relentlessly continue to engage in sin, there will come a time when God will give us over to our “debased mind” and let us have it our way. The apostle Paul writes about God’s wrath of abandonment in his letter to the Romans where we see that the “godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth” are eventually given over to the sinful desires of their hardened hearts (Romans 1:18-24).
A lengthy homosexual relationship might be lauded as "love" in secular (sinful) society but that is no commendation at all. It is actually a danger to their soul and eternal destiny! GotQuestions again-
"So, what then is the antidote for a heart condition such as this? First and foremost, we have to recognize the effect that this spiritual disease has on us. And God will help us to see our heart’s condition when we ask Him: “Search me O God, and know my heart…see if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting” (Psalm 139:2-24). God can heal any heart once we recognize our disobedience and repent of our sins. But true repentance is more than simply a resolute feeling of steadfast determination. Repentance manifests itself in a changed life."
Hallelujah that our mighty God changes our lives away from sin and toward righteousness! He can and He does. Every day.

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7 comments:

  1. Too much hate in here. Why can't you just let people be?

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    1. Repeating what the bible says about sin is not hate speech. It's truth speech.

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    2. This is not what Jesus preached. He told you to love one another. Do you think he was judgmental and hateful? He hung out with the poor, and outcast members of society, he in some ways was considered a outcast himself. The bible has been corrupted by Satan. You are not throwing stones but boulders at people who were born a certain way. How would you feel if god made who you are only to have people turn away and shun you? What happens behind closed doors is there business and no one else(they aren't trying to include you in the bedroom or there lifes). If being gay is a choice, then you go choose to be gay, right now!! No it's not a choice, it's who they are. Jesus was full of love, compassion and understanding, not hate and close mindedness.

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    3. Jesus did preach that homosexuality is a sin. The holy bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is one member of the Trinity, the other two being God and Jesus. In essence, every word of the bible is from Jesus. It is not being faithful to Him to take and choose which parts to believe, just because you think Jesus said it or didn't say it. He said the whole thing.

      Do you equally say, I will choose to believe Moses but not Jeremiah? Timothy but not Titus? No, the holy scriptures are from God, the highest and only authority.

      As for being judgmental, er, He IS judgmental. "Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.”" John 9:39.

      John 5:27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

      John 12:31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.

      He IS the Judge. He WILL judge your sin and every person who ever lived. He gave us the bible as a set of standards- moral, spiritual, civil...and said obey. 'Those who love Me do what I say,' John 14:23.

      Here are some of the "judgmental" things Jesus said:

      To the religious people, Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?" Mt 23:33

      Matt. 15:7-9, "You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, 8 ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me." 9 ‘But in vain do they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’”

      John 8:44, "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father..."

      Jesus called people snakes, whitewashed tombs, vipers, liars, hypocrites, sons of demons, and fools. How can you say He wasn't "judgmental"?

      Yes, in a sense Jesus is "closedminded." He gave a set of rules for behavior, and expects us to adhere to it. Period. Case closed. Are you going to talk back to the Son of Man and say, I thought you had an open mind'?? Are you going to say 'I thought it was cool to pick and choose what to believe?' or, 'I thought that since Paul said it and not you, it didn't count'? There will be no excuses on judgment day.

      God did not make people homosexual. No one is born gay. Homosexuality is a personal lifestyle choice, as the Roman's 1 verses state. Paul said that after coming to saving belief, some in the church WERE such, meaning they repented and did not remain in their homosexual sin any longer. (1 Corinthians 6:11).

      Pointing out sin is not throwing boulders. It might FEEL like boulders are being hurled, but that is just the weight of the sin that is being pointed out pressing down on a person.

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  2. Wow, someone actually calls it hate to warn people of the wrath they are storing up against themselves on the day of God's wrath when they will be judged for their sinful lifestyle-Romans 2:5. sigh-I recon telling the truth is considered hate speech. They won't say it was hate speech when they are standing before God at the Great white Throne but regret for all eternity that they didn't take the warning that someone actually loved them enough to tell them

    I recon if we just walk by a burning building without warning the people inside it's considered love. But if we warn them to GET OUT we are hating them.. I shake my head with such ignorance

    I thought that when Rock Hudson died of aids that Jim Nabors who was his partner would have turned away from how wicked and ugly this lifestyle is. Apparently he didn't. How utterly sad. That right there was a warning to stop and repent.

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  3. What is hate? Is hate ever justified? Wouldn't you agree that some things are worth hating? Evil in any form should be hated. That which our Creator God calls an abomination and which perverts His good gifts should be hated. Something which destroys people both physically and spiritually is evil and should be called evil, so that people will know to flee from it. That is not hate. But actually it is biblical love. When you love someone you warn them. A loving mother does not let her little child touch the hot stove. She does not just "let him be." Why not? Because she hates him? By no means. Because she doesn't want him to have fun? No, she protects and warns because she loves her child and does not want him to be harmed. This is true love. A loving mother will even risk her life to protect her child. The Bible calls Christians to put their lives on the line to tell the truth about Jesus Christ and about sin. Our society has so warped the concepts of love and hate that we now call evil, good and good, evil.

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  4. He other "Anonymous", quit trying to use Jesus as your club to beat people who are just repeating what He mandates. He told the adultress, "Go, and sin no more." He did not say that there is no sin, or that it is okay to act on every tendency. Your position that any tendency people have is okay to act out on, is just so crazy that its craziness is beyond debate. There are lots and lots of tendencies that even you would say are bad. And Jesus never nullified the prohibitions of homosexual acts. Remember, He is God the Son. He is the same God that prohibited homosexuality in the first place, in Old Testament times.

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